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# 00251 :  ornament wearing

is ornament wearing a sin or not?i asked this qestion because in bible we can see several persons tat weared ornaments...

Post by : joelchackochan  View Profile    since : 17 Aug 2010


Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Aug 2010 3:01:55 PM Close

 

Dear Joel Chackochan,

This subject was discussed many times.  Please read them.

Shalom Malekim!!!

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Reply by : godley   View Profile   Since : 9 Oct 2011 9:29:01 AM Close

 Up to you......

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Reply by : elwin   View Profile   Since : 16 Oct 2011 1:52:50 PM Close

we can wear ornaments.james.2.1-4,              2sam.1.24,             

 gold biscut ,now a days believers are keeping gold as a asset,instead of money,is it right?

 

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Reply by : ifellinlovewithamalayalee   View Profile   Since : 22 Oct 2011 6:47:31 PM Close

i think it all depends on the intentions of the heart.

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Reply by : sam48   View Profile   Since : 28 Oct 2011 9:59:36 AM Close

As per  Book of Revelation, heavens streets are made of Gold, you want tar used on the road as your ornaments. Israel suffered and started idol worship due to Gold. let   (l) alphabet removed from Gold you will get what you actually needed (God)

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Reply by : beracah   View Profile   Since : 29 Oct 2011 7:49:09 AM Close

sam48 wrote the below on 28 Oct 2011 09:59:36

Quote: "As per  Book of Revelation, heavens streets are made of Gold, you want tar used on the road as your ornaments. Israel suffered and started idol worship due to Gold. let   (l) alphabet removed from Gold you will get what you actually needed (God)" unquote

Given below are verses from the Book of Revelation where "gold / golden" are mentioned. Substitute tar used on the road wherever gold / golden are used. 

REV 1:12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lamp stands, 13 and among the lamp stands was someone "like a son of man," dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 

Rev 3:18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. 

Rev 4:4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 

5:8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 

REV 8:3 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. 

REV 9:13 The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the horns of the golden altar that is before God. 

REV 14:14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one "like a son of man" with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.

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Reply by : avoid_legalism   View Profile   Since : 1 Nov 2011 9:33:16 PM Close

As per  Book of Revelation, heavens streets are made of Gold, you want tar used on the road as your ornaments. Israel suffered and started idol worship due to Gold. let   (l) alphabet removed from Gold you will get what you actually needed (God)

Who cares if gold is tar in heaven?  That argument make absolutely no sense.  israel didn't need gold for idol worship.  It was just there, handy and available. Gold was not hte cause of the idol worship, their sin was.  Does gold make you sin?  If so, then don't use it/wear it/own it.  but don't generalize. 

If you want to generalize so much generalizations can be made just as ridiculous as this one. 

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Reply by : upadeshiappachan   View Profile   Since : 12 Nov 2011 6:02:15 PM Close

വിശ്വാസിക ആഭരണം ധരിക്കാമോ? എന്ന വിഷയത്തെ സംബന്ധിച്ച് joelchackochan അന്വേഷിച്ചു വരികയാണല്ലോ. ഈ വിഷയം സംബന്ധിച്ച് ഏറ്റവും സ്പഷ്ടമായത് എന്ന് വിശേഷിപ്പിക്കാവുന്നതാണ് സുവിശേഷക കുഞ്ഞുമോൻ ഡാനിയേ എഴുതിയ ആഭരണം തിരുവചന വെളിച്ചത്തി എന്ന പുസ്തകം. വിശ്വാസിക ആഭരണം ധരിക്കാതിരിപ്പാ വ്യക്തമായ കപ്പന പുതിയനിയമത്തിൽ ഉണ്ടെന്ന് ഇതി സമത്ഥിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. കൂടാതെ, ഈ വിഷയം സംബന്ധിച്ച് ഉന്നയിക്കപ്പെടാറുള്ള അനവധി ചോദ്യങ്ങക്കു മറുപടിയും അതികിയിട്ടുണ്ട്. പ്രസ്തുത പുസ്തകത്തിന്റെ pdf kunjumoncd@hotmail.com എന്ന വിലാസത്തി ലഭിക്കും.

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Reply by : beracah   View Profile   Since : 16 Nov 2011 4:17:15 AM Close

 This is a quote from one of the articles written by a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) Pastor in an attempt to prove that “No Ornament” is a Biblical command. See the section sub titled “Wearing our Wealth” by Doug Batchelor taken from the below link: 

rhttp://www.amazingfacts.org/free-stuff/online-library/ctl/viewmedia/mid/447/iid/23/lng/en/sc/r.aspx?7=jewelry:-how-much-is-too-much? 

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“The reason gold and jewels are so valuable is that they are rare and expensive to mine from the earth. Angels must marvel when they see us put on jewelry to signify value and wealth. In heaven, gold is used for pavement, and diamonds are the stones that form the walls of its mansions! Just think of it. From heaven's perspective, gold is asphalt and diamonds are blocks! How silly it must appear to heavenly beings when we dangle asphalt and bricks on our ears and wrap them around our fingers. Wouldn't you look twice if someone walked into your church next week wearing a black asphalt pendant and a matching tar ring?”  Unquote  

Many such interesting arguments, defenses and explanations for “NO ORNAMENT” can be found in the web sites of SDAs. Almost all the arguments appearing in Books written by Non-SDAs including KB on “No Ornament” are verbatim copies totally borrowed from SDAs. Please someone come up with something original and not mere repetition of the arguments of Ellen G white / SDAs, treated as heretics by KB. 

PTV

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Reply by : renesh1983   View Profile   Since : 18 Oct 2012 12:57:42 AM Close

Guys wear gold or whatever you want to. Just don’t value it more than the Guy who is sitting up there (Jesus). If you lose your ornaments or your accessories, make sure you don’t run to your bed and start crying like a baby; make sure you can let go without a heart burn :). This will define your priority to be more towards Jesus and not your ornaments or your accessories. 

 

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