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# 00030 :  V-cut Skirts
On this form it is very hot discussion over wearing churidar or chatta/mundu & wedding rings. Above all these I would like to invite your opinion about our young sisters are wearing “V-CUT” skirts even our meetings also.
Post by : Saji  View Profile    since : 15 Dec 2002


Reply by : Blessey   View Profile   Since : 17 Dec 2002 12:57:59 PM Close
There is a difference between modesty and fashion. If an outfit is not modest, then it clearly doesn't belong.

Fashion is another story. Who establishes what fashion is godly and what fashion is worldly? Suits and ties can be considered worldly because people of the world wear it. So can western dresses for women. The only standard in scripture given is modesty.

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Reply by : TV   View Profile   Since : 28 Jun 2003 6:13:14 AM Close
Useless subject

Nothing else to talk???

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Reply by : Believer   View Profile   Since : 8 Oct 2003 9:06:35 AM Close
Here are certain good write ups on this issue without any bias. Most people write based only on what they think is right. Read any articles or bible with PRAYER and it is God open our wisdom and heart to understand His truth.

http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-1.htm
http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-2.htm
http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-3.htm
http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-4.htm
http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-5.htm
http://members.cox.net/rev.claude/stdy35-6.htm

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Reply by : ba   View Profile   Since : 6 Jan 2005 1:06:24 PM Close
Scripture says, "As the flowwers of the field, Solomon wasent clothed like one of them, let your heavenly father took care of him"

How do you relate to that verse. Is their identification in that portion and a lifestyle of materialism. The bible is expounding, we shouldnt get into unwanted materialism. Solomon is a role model for all of us, when it comes to materialism, and is a peer for you to follow.

Thank You.

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Reply by : sunilajoseph@aol.com   View Profile   Since : 24 Apr 2005 2:56:50 PM Close
It is appropriate to dress depending on the culture. In the church ladies cover their heads while they pray. But it is not wise to come to church with dirty clothes. Wear the best to come to the presence of God. If we go to a party or wedding we wear kasavu saree. Above all God's presence is the highest we can get. So dress accordingly.
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Reply by : mmk   View Profile   Since : 10 Jun 2005 1:52:32 PM Close
I am not sure what a V-CUT skirt is. But I realize that the subject is appropriateness of a Christian’s attire in Assembly gatherings.
The Word of God does not prescribe a uniform for Christian’s outward appearance but we are given guidelines and examples to follow. However it gives us clear instructions to “dress” our inner person. Col 3:8 instructs us to “put-off” anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy and filthy language. Col 3:12-15 instructs us to “put-on” compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, peace, thankfulness and love. Keep in mind our beauty is short lived. Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised. Proverbs 31:30

A Christian can dress fashionably and attractively but within the boundaries of modesty and culture. The virtuous woman of Proverbs 31 was dressed in fine linen and purple, attires of kings and priests in OT and rich men in NT. Our clothes and appearance reveal a lot about our values, our character and what we believe. Modesty is something desirable and precious and it begins in the heart. Modesty comes from the inside out rather than outside in.
Few words of caution: it is possible to have a very modest appearance outwardly and to have the heart of a Pharisee. The fact that you dress modestly or conservatively does not necessarily mean that you have a modest heart. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are more spiritual. The way you dress outwardly is a reflection of your heart, but not always. You can have a heart that really is rebellious against God and be dressed extremely conservatively.

Blessings of Modesty: You will have the blessing of knowing that you have been obedient to God. It sets you free from being enslaved to fads and fashions. You will be respected and adored Christians. It will protect you from the wrong kind of attention from the wrong kind of men. You will be valued for your spiritual qualities. Finally as you choose modesty you will be able to win others to Christ.
God bless.

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Reply by : terry_martin   View Profile   Since : 25 Jun 2005 3:49:05 PM Close
Dear Sisters,
Its my view that we dress the best when we go to worship the King or be in the presence of the King. It is not a gathering for mourning or weeping or sorrowing nor a place thats unknown but a place where we bow down before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
When we say the best its not fashion nor is it a style but what befits a woman in all her modesty, dignity and self-respect. You are going to be in the presence of the Almighty God who is very Loving and Awesome and also a God of Consuming fire. He is to be much revered and feared too. He cannot be pleased by fashion not styles nor that which enslaves man day by day but purely by our selves and our humility.
In this regard the onus falls on the aged sisters in the assembly to prayerfully and gracefully teach the young. Its not culture nor changing times that is to be considered or given importance to. Its where we are and in whose presence we are that should capture and captivate our minds and our hearts.
Let us all for that matter come well dressed and let us all come with joy and also trembling since we will be in the presence of GOD, I again repeat GOD (All Powerful and Most Holy).
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Reply by : llcj   View Profile   Since : 27 Jun 2005 9:03:53 AM Close
What is well dressed? If believers in the former USSR, or China go to their meetings well dressed, won't there be trouble?

Some have advocated wearing our best to the meeting. Does that mean if I own a tuxedo, that I should be wearing a tuxedo to worship every week?

No, my brother, please do not add an undo hardship on believers by asking that we dress the best.

The only requirements should be cleanliness, respectfulness and modesty.

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Reply by : terry_martin   View Profile   Since : 27 Jun 2005 12:02:35 PM Close
Dear Brethren,
Well dressed is Not scantily dressed nor being dressed beyond your means and capacity.
Every human being is taught to be well dressed from their childhood days.
Appreciate the thoughts that yes modesty and respectfulness is a strong character to our dressing.
Its not for us to see what people of other countries do and wear but what we can and should in all the material blessings that our Lord is mercifully blessing us with.
In the presence of the king we must not be found shabbily dressed nor scantily dressed and we can never please God with rich display of wealth and glamour.
Modesty matters most in our being well dressed.
Like how we were all taught by our parents to dress well and be presentable let us too help others in our assemblies likewise since the world is fast changing in fashion and tasteful displays into which advertently some of us too fall. This thread is only to help us realise that its not fashion nor style that counts but how we revere and adore the one who is worthy of worship. Its how we show Him that Yes we are happy being His children and thankful for all that we receive from Him. Its how we respect Him, the one who cares for us.
Our Attitude plays a great part in this small act
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Reply by : achu   View Profile   Since : 27 Jun 2005 1:57:28 PM Close
"V cut skirt".GOD SAVE U!!!.Pls read Rom 14:16,21
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Reply by : sharon4christ   View Profile   Since : 9 Jul 2005 10:25:43 AM Close
Many weeks before , i had read the postings & replies to this thread .

I thought not to reply anything for this !!

But what "terry_martin" wrote is true according to me .
I agree with you .

Because we are Christians , and we represent Christ wherever we go & wherever we are .
So its very important for us to stay good .....
But in an acceptable manner .
And nicely dressed with humbleness .

Because our body is HIS temple .
And we got to protect it .

Modesty should not be related to scantily dressing & vulgarity .

Everything we do , should be acceptable to our LORD .
Thats it

With CHRISTIAN Greetings :
Sharon

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Reply by : bthomas   View Profile   Since : 5 Sep 2006 3:50:32 PM Close
godlymathew,
Not sure who TV is, but I think you need to be saved.
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Reply by : hellisreal   View Profile   Since : 9 Sep 2006 12:06:50 AM Close
Lets not write anything that would hurt others feeling. Your maturity in Christ Jesus can be understood by what you post. Jesus said a man can only bringout what is inside of him, good man brings forth good stored inside him and evil man the evil stored inside him.

Now, What do you think when bible says dress with modesty? It means
1. The state or quality of being modest.
2. Reserve or propriety in speech, dress, or behavior.
3. Lack of pretentiousness; simplicity.
So if you are wearing clothes to show-off what perfect figure you have, then you need to be checking if you are being modest. Normally, what i think is wearing skin tight clothes is very immodest, if look at such a persons shadow you would think the person is naked. This kind of dressing is just too much. This is my view only may not be correct. As it depends how you persive. What dya say bros...

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Reply by : mathew_rijo   View Profile   Since : 10 Sep 2006 5:44:45 AM Close
>> "What dya say bros... "

I say that this is the Sister's Forum.

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Reply by : godsown   View Profile   Since : 10 Sep 2006 7:29:52 AM Close
Well said Brother Mathew_rijo
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Reply by : username   View Profile   Since : 11 Sep 2006 12:32:53 AM Close
What on earth is a "V-cut skirt"??????
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Reply by : username   View Profile   Since : 4 Oct 2006 7:25:58 AM Close
i guess the whole argument went on even without anyone knowing what a v-cut skirt is!!
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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 22 Feb 2007 3:02:16 PM Close
Thank you..username...seriously what is a "V-cut skirt"????
I mean "mmk" and "terry_martin" did have some good points on apparel in general...but really could you clarify what such a skirt is for the rest of us to put in our 2 cents.....
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Reply by : godlymathew   View Profile   Since : 7 Apr 2008 6:43:16 AM Close
Hello mr .....btthomas...., first you ask that question to yourself?. are u sure saved?. are u sure about it. first u find the big steel rod from your eye then come to me.

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Reply by : godlymathew   View Profile   Since : 7 Apr 2008 7:29:33 AM Close
Hello mr .....btthomas...., first you ask that question to yourself?. are u saved?. are u sure about it. first u find the big steel rod from your eye then come to me.

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Reply by : jenny1   View Profile   Since : 31 Oct 2008 1:09:30 AM Close
there is nothing wrong in a Vneck shirt. But there will be alimit to how law it shows. if it is too law wear a t shirt or camisole.please do not show cleavage. it is wrong it is not modest. women should not give a chance for men to look at her and comit sin
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Reply by : jenny1   View Profile   Since : 31 Oct 2008 1:11:26 AM Close
a saved woman has to wear modest cloths,no cleavage or tummy showing.
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Reply by : jasmine2   View Profile   Since : 5 May 2009 1:05:23 AM Close
HI EVERYBODY LET US BE MODEST,LADIES LET US COVER OURSELVES IN MODEST,CAUSE WE CARRY JESUS IN US
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Reply by : frenchbeard   View Profile   Since : 5 May 2009 4:52:50 AM Close
jenny1

No tummy showing means no sarees.

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Reply by : jasmine2   View Profile   Since : 14 May 2009 9:46:16 PM Close

all those who are saved out there should know a modest dress for assembly should be,are they coming to show off their body parts or worship God.  cammon ,now ladies get real let us fear God and put on some decent clothes do not give men a chance to look at u lustfully and be modest.

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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 19 May 2009 4:41:57 PM Close

 "women should not give a chance for men to look at her and commit sin."

May I ask you "Jenny1" is this a truly attainable goal ? I understand  blatant exposure being a cause for "lustful thoughts"...but can you say with 100% certainity that every cloth you wear does not in anyway cause another man to look at you? Not ever...If your answer is "yes"...you are either extremely naive or in denial...because the issue of modesty is relative when it comes to culture but very clear when it comes to scriptures, but it requires a spiritual maturity to understand the issue properly and explain it.

When we give advices or rsponses, especially to our younger women we need to be careful and not give this kind of half-baked responses which have cultural conotations rather than spiritual maturity.

 You can come for worship in a skirt/sleevelessshirt/tank/a cami etc. and nobody is actually looking at you and going all "lustful" because it isn't considered "immodest"....but you turn up in something like that into a church...maybe in Kerala.... and the same outfit which was "modest" elsewhere is "immodest" here.

The attitude of the heart becomes a big factor...are we there to check what the other is wearing or not wearing or are we there to worship our Lord. If we are there to worship our Lord....what the other is doing or wearing doesn't become an issue or a matter for lustful thought because our hearts and minds are filled with the Lord.

So can we with any conviction say..."you know ladies cover yourself and all the problems will be solved, don't give men a chance to look at you lustfully"....No one knows the hearts or minds of man but God. How much should a lady cover herself so as not to illicit any negative responses from males....because what may seem unappealing to one man is appealing to another...isn't that true?

If you have raised boys or have had brothers you are close to, you will know the answer that it can even be just a pretty face that illicits bad thoughts...so then do we suggest to our women to cover up the face. If you think about it, then the muslims have it down right by making their women wear a "bhurka"....that can really stamp out any "lustful" thoughts from the opposite sex.

You can't live your life worrying about things you can't control. Ask the saviour to guide you individually on what we should wear....everybody has opinins but we are here to glorify God and not man...so wear what feels right in the sight of the Lord...His opinion is the only one that matters in the end, as we cannot control the thoughts of others all the time.

 

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Reply by : frenchbeard   View Profile   Since : 20 May 2009 6:06:11 AM Close

^^very well said. Our people are too bothered about what others wear, frenchbeards, etc etc. They are very quick to judge. and the never realize that the main reason we come to church is to praise and worship God.

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Reply by : ayyopavam   View Profile   Since : 4 Jul 2010 7:12:13 AM Close

Dear mom 23 can u sat what is the dress is good for sight of lord, evry one will say my dress my dress . pothujanam upayokikkan madikkunnathu polum now a days our sisters are wearing at church. blouse back open , or front opening up to lower end , sary seem it may be 3 mtrs, all belly visible, transperent cloths which can show inner dress. tyte dress which can show all body shape,short up or shartop, side keeri ingu mele vare ittirikkunnathu, nadakkumpol almost ellam out. top butom idan polum ethathavidham, pinne busil kayariyal mukalil pidikkan kai pokkiyal pinne parayukayum venda. about 10  --  12 years it is ok . but after that  think your self.  

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Reply by : ayyopavam   View Profile   Since : 4 Jul 2010 7:13:12 AM Close

ITHOKKE THANNE VENO NAMMUDE SAHODHARIMAR DHARIKKAN.

 

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Reply by : mom23   View Profile   Since : 14 Jul 2010 2:39:52 PM Close

 Dear "ayyopavam",

I think you misunderstood the gist of my post or perhaps I wasn't clear enough about the point I was trying to make......I was responding to the usual statement of not allowing men to sin etc...etc... by clothes. I do not agree with that statement on may levels.

Now if you attend a church where women dress in the manner in which you describe (exaggeration ?? I do not know....)...you have bigger problems than women and their choices of clothes!!!!

The attire a wife or daughter of a household is a  reflection on what the headship at home is like........In the same way the belief system of the members of a church are a reflection of what doctrinal truth they follow or adhere to or follow in their church.

Let me explain because you may need to ask these questions to yourself.....

1. Is the biblical head of the house being a priest and prophet in his house?  

2. Is he channelling and shepherding the hearts and minds of his family towards the Lord and living a life for His glory......which reflects in the choices they make, whether it is clothing or lifestyle?

3. How much biblical foundation is he giving them on what the gathering of saints at a church is all about....is it for worship and praise or is it for anything else?

4. What is the mother's role in the household? How well is her understanding of her scriptural role? 

5. What is the father's vision for his family????? 

If families are not clear in their understanding of what the scripture (not culture/tradition) has asked them to do, what their roles or duties as husbands/fathers, wives/mothers, children/daughters/sons are.......then it is reflected in small ways like in attire and big ways like in the choices they make in life.

So, then if you have a lot of members coming to a place of worship in unsuitable attire, then  as a body of Christ, the church, needs to go back to the  foundation and delve deeper into making members understand what God wants them to do, to make them understand biblical truths and turn away from peer and societal influences etc.......

It takes work and a lot of patience! It cannot be done by pointing fingers, but they need to be shepherded gently and carefully. But if we want changes that affect generations to come then seeking the scripture for wisdom is the way to go........instead of blaming people for their choices, finding out the "why" of their choice is more important because then only can you address it and help resolve it scripturally.

This is just me opinion!

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Reply by : ann2   View Profile   Since : 13 Aug 2011 12:32:48 PM Close

Scriptures is given by inspiration of God,and is profitablefor doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness.2 Timothy :15.16 .Psalms 119:9-11.Romans 1:21,22,26,28,32. ch 5:17..ch 8:12,1314.Ch 611-20.ch:8:5-14.ch 12:1,2.ch13:14 ,ch :14.Ephesians :2:1-3,ch 4 :17-24,30.ch 5 :8-20,ch :10-18.Philippians 3:10-19,  20-21. Colossians 3:1,2,12,16.17.1 Thessalonians 5: 17-24. Born again child of God will grow to be conformed to the image of His Son.Rom 8:29

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Reply by : svarg   View Profile   Since : 8 May 2014 6:04:17 PM Close

ITHOKKE THANNE VENO NAMMUDE SAHODHARIMAR DHARIKKAN. V Kut skirt idanda. Ayyee.. Nanamaville

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Reply by : svarg   View Profile   Since : 8 May 2014 6:04:58 PM Close

I second it first it third it and fourth it

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Reply by : paulthomas1   View Profile   Since : 12 May 2014 9:10:38 PM Close

svarg - I fifth it. How is your kappa and panni irachi recipie coming up.. ? No more comedies from you or questions. Bobby chacko is also missing your questions. Please post keto

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