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# 01056 :  God-breathed Written Word
Dear Readers,

This is a spin off from the thread "Inspiration of the Scriptures." I hope this will be beneficial to many as to be established in the scriptures, or from being mislead by other teachings that are theological in nature but are not necessarily scriptural in truth.

This series may take a few days to be completed. I request you to be patient with me. Please take notes on points that you want further clarifications and post them with sufficient citations for identification, date and time of posting are helful, at the end of the series and not as we progress. This will help to maintain the continuity of this thread.

I know that I have promised answers to certain questions in the other thread. If you feel that was not addressed to its fullest to your satisfaction in this series, please let me know. I think I included them in this series, but I may be wrong. My mind was filled with awe, when I was writing on this subject, and my human nature might have failed to explain those magnificient thoughts.

In Christian love,
George P. Koshy

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Jan 2007 9:20:03 AM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-1-A)

Introduction:

I thank Moses for providing certain answers to my questions on the thread “Inspiration of the Scriptures” that started on 2 Jan 2007. In that thread I placed a hypothesis (H1) in an attempt to make Moses LemuelRaj to focus on the discussion. I did promise to change my position on the inspiration of KJV to Moses LemuelRaj, if he could explain his position so clearly. Unfortunately, when I studied his answers, they tend to be theological rather than scriptural. Many theological arguments are manufactured out of the unconscious, starved desired and are substitute for the Word of God. A theological explanation could be scriptural, but not necessarily all the time. In this case Moses LemuelRaj’s explanations are theological without scriptural support. Of course, he places certain scriptures to deceive many with the appearance of scriptural support to his arguments. A closer look will show that there is none. In this case he showed how his theological explanations could be ‘force fitted’ to make KJV and inspired scriptures. For an example, he emphasizes that scripture means written. Though this is the literal meaning of the Greek word GRAPHE, the general meaning is ‘a sacred writing.’ If ‘scripture’ means ‘written word’ as Moses LemuelRaj insists, what about the KJV he reads. That is printed and not handwritten. Another example is his posting on 15 Jan 2007 at 6:24:42. He gave 14 characteristics as proof of the Authorized Version (AV or KJV) being “Scriptures.” If he looked into other translations such as ESV, NIV, ASV, etc. Will he see the same 14 reasons in them also? If he could, then KJV is one of the “Scriptures,” along with many other translations that are available today to be considered as ‘inspired.’ Since 2 Timothy 3:16 is also in all of them, they are also inspired.

(To be cont. Part-1.B)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Jan 2007 9:23:30 AM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-1-B)

...Then all are ‘inspired scriptures,” according to Moses LemuelRaj. If they are all inspired scriptures, then why there are so much differences between them? This is the folly of holding unscriptural teachings that are theological in nature on the inspiration of translations and we should not force-fit such teachings into our faith.

In 1 Peter 1:23 we read, “… the living and abiding word of God.” The word of God is living for ever. It is not dead even for an instant. It is not a living word of God for a moment either. It is for ever. The word of God abides for ever. It is not abiding for a moment. In Psalm 119:89 we read, “For ever, O Jehovah, thy word is settled in the heavens.” Yes, it is settled in heaven, though on this earth men try to make it a 17th or 18th century English translation, KJV. This Word of God that is settled in heaven for ever. What we are discussing is about that “living and abiding” of the Word of God. This is also mentioned by the Lord Jesus Christ as written in Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; 21:33.

This discussion will converge to the mistaken idea of ‘King James Version is inspired by the Holy Spirit.’ For this purpose, Moses LemuelRaj has agreed to summarize it as, “KJV is the inspired word of God. As it is inspired it is immutable and infallible,” we name this as H1 and referred to as such. There are no H2 or H3 to discuss.

(To be cont. Part-2)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 22 Jan 2007 10:56:55 AM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-2-a)

Force-Fitting:

What do I mean by ‘force fitting?’ Force fitting is an engineering technique and is used very well in many applications. An example of this is the wheel and axle fitting of a locomotive. There are no nuts and bolts used. The center hole of the wheel and the axle end go through a truing operation that created wavy surface on both. Then they are fitted together by force and held together by having a pressure of 120 lb/sq.in. A similar force-fitting of a theological (Dr. Phelps’ called the inspiration of the scriptures a ‘theory’) concept or argument in favor of KJV is made by many KJVOs to make it an inspired scriptures. Let me explain why I find Moses LemuelRaj’s explanations in support of H1 fall short of the scriptural truth. Please don’t misunderstand me, he comes very close to the truth, but fails in essential structure of his arguments. The following are my reasons I reject Moses LemuelRaj’s unreasonable and unscriptural stand of H1: “KJV is the inspired word of God. As it is inspired it is immutable and infallible.” He may say that I wrote H1. That is true. But when I posted H1 on 8 Jan 2007 and invited him to answer my questions that I posted on 2 Jan 2007 and on 8 Jan 2007, no objection to the wording was raised by him. Therefore, H1 is his position and I also made it clear to him that my attempt is to reject or not to reject H1 after studying his reply.

On 13 Dec 2006 Moses LemuelRaj wrote in the thread, ‘James 1:13,’ --- << About "FORCE-FITTING"
Hosea 11:1, "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called MY SON out of Egypt."
Matthew 2:15, "And was there until the death of Herod: that IT MIGHT BE FULFILLED which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, OUT OF EGYPT HAVE I CALLED MY SON."
See how the Holy Ghost "force fits" Hosea 11:1 to the Lord Jesus Christ, and says it is FULFILLED.>> ---(cont.)

(To be cont. Part-2-b)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 22 Jan 2007 10:59:19 AM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-2-b)

... People try to force-fit their ideas into the scriptures, the Word of God. God does not force-fit anything in His word. They are His word that is immutable and inerrant. They are established for ever in the heavens. The Holy Spirit lead us into all truth by revealing what was said by the prophets as prophecies related to the Son (1 Peter 1:9-10; 2 Peter 1:20-21). The Holy Spirit also tells us how these prophecies were fulfilled. He does not force-fit as men do with their ideas. Only Moses LemuelRaj will say such demeaning words to justify his explanation of taking certain word from 1 John 3:9 out-of-context and trying to teach that is not true. He did admit this action of taking words out-of-context from 1 John 3:9. Moses LemuelRaj force-fits his ideas into the inspired (God-breathed), immutable, and inerrant Word of God and then blames the Holy Spirit for force-fitting, when He leads us into the truth. That is heresy.

In 2 Peter 1:20 we read, “Knowing this first, that the scope of no prophecy of scripture is had from its own particular interpretation…” In KJV it is written, “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” The Greek word translated as ‘private’ is IDIOS (= one’s own). That is to understand that no prophecy in the scripture is for one’s own interpretation. Since the prophecies were uttered and written by men who were moved by the Holy Spirit, only He can lead us into all truth. When He led us in Matthew 2:15 about Hosea 11:1, Moses LemuelRaj said that the Holy Spirit was force-fitting. His words were, “See how the Holy Ghost ‘force-fit’ Hosea 11:1…”

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Jan 2007 1:47:16 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-3.1)

Autograph or “As It Was Originally Given”:

Before we get into the discussion on the inspiration of the Word of God, I wish to address one aspect of what Moses LemuelRaj wrote on this subject. He wrote that 2 Tim 3:16 has NO REFERENCE to the original autographs. What are these ‘autographs?’ I did not see that word, ‘autographs,’ in KJV. Men wrote the books in the Bible. Is that the sense the books in the Bible are called autographs by Moses LemuelRaj? There was a Greek word for ‘autograph’ and that is AUTOGRAPHOS from AUTO means ‘self’ and GRAPHEIN means ‘to write.’ If one uses the word ‘autographs’ to replace the fact ‘as it was originally given,’ then he/she is changing the origin of the Word of God from God to man who wrote them with their hands.

In Greek the word AUTOGRAPHOS existed when the New Testament books were originally given. This word was not included in those God-breathed words. We should not be introducing words that were rejected by God in revealing His will and mind to man. AUTOGRAPH means, “A person’s own signature or handwriting.” It could also be, “A manuscript in the author’s own hand writing.” There are only a few things that are given in God’s own handwritings for us to call the ‘autographs of God. Those are the Ten Commandments in the two tables of stones and the judgment that was written in the Babylonian palace. The rest of the Bible was written in man’s handwriting. Those who insist on using the word ‘autograph’ instead of ‘as it was originally given’ or its equivalent may dare to say, this is a logical conclusion, in the future that the Word of God should be limited to those which were written by using God’s fingers. Thus only the Ten Commandments and the writing on the wall of the Babylonian palace will be finalized as the true scriptures of God, autographs of God. We should not give this an opportunity to happen.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Jan 2007 1:48:41 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-3.2)

As we are discussing the ‘Inspiration of the Word of God,’ we will be looking into the aspect of inspiration in the written (scripted) Word of God, the scriptures. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Originator (ARChEGON – Greek = Prince - KJV) of life (Acts 3:15); Originator (ARChEGON = Ruler – KJV) and Savior (Acts 5:31); Originator (ARChEGON – Greek = Captain – KJV) of their salvation (Hebrews 2:10); and Originator (ARChEGON – Greek = Author) and finisher of Faith (Hebrews 12:2). The Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, is the source or the origin of all things. He is named the Word in John 1:1. In Hebrews 1:1-2 we read, “God having spoken in many parts and in many ways formerly to the fathers in the prophets, at the end of these days has spoken to us in the person of the Son, whom he has established heir of all things…” In Acts 7:37-38 we read, “… This is the Moses who said to the sons of Israel, A prophet shall God raise up to you out of your brethren like me him shall ye hear. This is he who was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him in mount Sina, and with our fathers; who received living oracles to give to us; …” Being filled with the Holy Spirit, Peter and Stephen told us that the Originator (ARChEGON – Acts 3:15, 5: 31) was the Son and Stephen added by saying that it was He who gave the living oracles. In the Bible, this Greek word ARChEGON (Originator) is used only of our Lord Jesus Christ. We also understand that the Word being the Originator of all things in John 1:1. These oracles were written down by men. When you say ‘autographs,’ then you are not considering the living oracles that preceded the act of writing them by men. As He is our God and he being the source, the ORIGINAL should stand for what was originally given, as being the first. The original language is the language in which it was written... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-3.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Jan 2007 1:50:42 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-3.3)

...He is the Originator and not the ‘autograph or.’ If we call the originals as AUTOGRAPH, we should remember that it was in man’s handwriting and not of God’s. According to the common use, the word “autograph” is applicable to a manuscript that was written in the handwriting of the author. “Original” should be the word to indicate the Word of God that was originally given by the Originator of all things.

Moses LemuelRaj wrote on 6 Jan 2007, “2 Timothy talks about the Scriptures given to us by the inspiration of God - a process wherein God has made them ALIVE by breathing into those WRITTEN words His Spirit!” ---- He wrote that the ‘inspiration’ is a process that makes WRITTEN words to come alive (“made them alive” is the expression he used). Does he mean that they were without life when it was originally WRITTEN? Moses LemuelRaj believes that they were without life when it was originally given; also he uses the term ‘autograph.’ The scripture tells us that they are the “living oracles” of God. What do we understand by “living oracles?” Our understanding should be that they were LIVE when it was given as ORACLES of God and not made alive at a later time. Men wrote those ‘living oracles.’ No one wrote dead oracles for God to make them ALIVE. It was live, when it was given to be written. They came from the Originator of life. They came as God’s words and they were written as the Word of God and it will remain as the Word of God.

May be I am wrong! Muhammad wrote dead oracles, Quran. Hindu sages of ancient days wrote dead oracles, Vedas and Upanishads. May be Moses LemuelRaj thinks that when Moses, Samuel, Isaiah, Jeremiah and so on (all the authors of the Old and New Testament books) wrote the 66 books, they were of the same condition as the works of Muhammad and the Hindu sages... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-3.4)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Jan 2007 1:52:43 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-3.4)

... He may think that they were products of human ingenuity, knowledge and wisdom like Quran, Vedas, and Upanishads. After these books were written (including Quran, Vedas, and Upanishads), may not be after the completion of all, God decided to make ALIVE a few of them by breathing into those preferred books. They teach that is how God made the 66 books in the Bible alive and Moses LemuelRaj termed this as “a process” of inspiration. My response to this idea is after the manner of Apostle Paul, “Far be the thought!” The Word of God teaches otherwise. They were given as “living oracles” and men wrote them down. This is what is meant by the expression, “The Word of God as it was originally given.” KJVOs refuse to say what Gamaliel said about the works of God. In Acts 5:38-39 he told his fellow Jewish leaders that they cannot overthrow the works of God. He did not say anything about what was made by man and later blessed by God. He told the Jewish leaders about their folly of resisting that which had its origin from God by attributing its origin to man. The Word of God has its origin in God and no one can overthrow it. They were not autographs of men that God made alive at a later time by breathing on it.

(To be cont. Part-3.5)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Jan 2007 1:53:59 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-3.5)

It is written in 2 Corinthians 2:17, “For we do not, as the many, make a trade (corrupt – KJV) of the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as of God, before God, who speak in Christ.” We learn again in this verse that our Lord Jesus Christ is the Originator of the Word of God. What God spoke in Christ is the word of God. This is what we learn from 2 Corinthians 2:17. We also read that men corrupt the word of God. We do not read about any ‘autograph’ in the scriptures. We read about how the word of God was given to man and its source. The original giving of the word of God to man was through the Son and when this happened men were moved by the Holy Spirit. What was written at the time of giving was, the “original” or “as it was originally given,” and not an ‘autograph’ as Moses LemuelRaj claims and insists. Only those who want to demote the Word of God are eager to use the word ‘autograph’ instead of ‘original’ or ‘as it was originally given.’ The ‘original’ or ‘as it was originally given’ brings before our eyes and ears the origin of the Word of God as a direct revelation from God, in Christ, and of the Holy Spirit. When KJVOs insist that KJV is inspired as the originals were – spoken or written, they are denying the relationship of the Originator to the Word of God. They replace the Originator with the king and the Anglican Church because they authorized KJV to be read in the Church and public functions.

(To be cont. Part-4)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 24 Jan 2007 2:02:17 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-4.1)

What Do We Mean When We Say, “The Word of God?”

It is written in Hebrews 4:12, “For the word of God is living and operative, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and penetrating to the division of soul and spirit, both of joints and marrow, and a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” It is written in Isaiah 11:4, “But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.”

We read about three different Words in the Bible. The first is the spoken word of God. This is not limited to what we have in our Bibles. In the strict sense, this could include all the written Word of God along with that which is not written but spoken for man’s edification. Moses was the first man who wrote what God-breathed into him. He wrote in Deuteronomy 29:29, “The hidden things belong to Jehovah our God; but the revealed ones are ours and our children’s for ever, to do all the words of this law.” It is written in Revelation 10:4, “And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write: and I heard a voice out of the heaven saying, Seal the thing which the seven thunders have spoken, and write them not.” The revealed or spoken word of God is thus separated into two classes; the written word of God and the revealed but not written word of God.

The second is the written Word of God, which is referred to in many places in the Bible as scriptures. It is written in Amos 3:7, “But the Lord Jehovah will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.” It is written in Romans 15:4, “For as many things as have been written before have been written for our instruction, that through endurance and through encouragement of the scriptures we might have hope.”... (Cont.)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 24 Jan 2007 2:03:55 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-4.2)

...It is written in 1 Corinthians 10:11, “Now all these things happened to them as types, and have been written for our admonition.” It is written in 2 Timothy 3:16, “Every scripture is divinely inspired and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be complete, fully fitted to every good works.”

The third is the incarnate Word. About Him it is written in John 1:1, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things received being through him, and without him not one thing received being which has received being.” It is written in Revelation 1:16, “And having in his right hand seven stars; and out of his mouth a sharp two-edged sword going forth; …” It is written in Revelation 2:12, “These things says he that has the sharp two-edged sword.”

We learn that the written Word of God is a two-edged sword and the incarnate Word has a two-edged sword going from His mouth. The incarnate Word is the Originator of all the written Word of God. The origin of the written word of God is the mouth of the incarnate Word, the Son. The incarnate Word is the Originator (ARChEGON) of all things, including the written Word of God.

The written Word of God, the scriptures, reveals the incarnate Word to us. We do not have any knowledge about what was not written out of what was spoken by God (God-breathed).

(To be cont. Part-5)

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Reply by : lemuelraj   View Profile   Since : 25 Jan 2007 3:19:39 AM Close
Dear Bro.Koshy,

There was an article you wrote on the inspiration of the Scriptures, posted on brethren.in (or somewhere else, I do not remember exactly where). I had seen in December last year. I searched for it in brethren.in website, but cannot find it. Can you please give me the link? Thanks.

In Christ Jesus,
Moses LemuelRaj

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 25 Jan 2007 1:31:06 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-5.1)

Spoken and Written Word of God:

When studying the Word of God, we have to submit ourselves to God¡¦s words without trying to fit the Word of God to our ideas. In Acts 17:11 we read about the Jews in Berea, ¡§And these were more noble than these in Thessalonica, receiving the word with all readiness of mind, daily searching the scriptures if these things were so.¡¨ This is the fundamental principle in studying the scriptures. In 1 Corinthians 14:29 the saints are asked to judge if one prophecies. This judging is to be done with what? As in Berea the saints are to search the scriptures and judge what was prophesied. A prophecy is the communication of the mind of God. When one say that he is speaking from the Word of God and communicating the will and mind of God, then the saints who hear should judge what was said in the light of the scriptures, the written Word of God. In the early days of Christianity, the communications for the moments words (the preaching and teachings) were not written (ƒ×ƒâƒÑƒÖƒØƒn- GRAPHE = write ¡V translated in English as ¡§Scripture¡¨ from the Heathen - Latin), but they were spoken (ƒâƒØƒÝƒÑ - RHEMA = word ¡V translated as ¡§saying,¡¨ ¡§word,¡¨ or ¡§thing¡¨) and those who were used by the Holy Spirit are named as ¡¥prophets¡¦ in the new Testament. (Philip¡¦s daughters are an example.) What we hear and read are to be judged in the light of the ¡§written¡¨ Word of God. In 1 Timothy 4:13-16 individual believers are asked to study the written Word of God to profit the assembly.

In English language ¡¥scripture¡¦ means, ¡§a sacred writing or book.¡¨ I is derived from the Latin word SCRIPTURA, which means, ¡§act of writing.¡¨ When we read in the Bible the word scripture, it is translated from two Greek words and not Latin, but used what was derived from Latin by the early Christians in the 2nd and 3rd centuries. The Greek words are GRAMMA and GRAPHE... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part -5.1)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 25 Jan 2007 1:33:11 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-5.2)

...GRAMMA means an epistle, a note, a book, etc. GRAPHE means a document or a statement. Both of them are derived from the verb GRAPHO indicating an act of writing or engraving. The corresponding Hebrew word is seen in Daniel 10:21 and it is KATHAB (similar to KITHAB in Hindi) and it means ‘something written.’ The spoken communications were of short life, but the written communications were of longer life. Therefore, what the prophets spoke, they were asked to write down and preserve for the future generation to read and obey. The Greek word for ‘to speak’ is RHEMA. Therefore, we read about ‘spoken Word of God,’ as well as ‘written Word of God.’ The ‘spoken Word of God’ are referred to in the ‘written Word of God’ as “Jehovah spoke,” “The word Jehovah came to me,” and so on. When what we speak is according to the written Word of God, then it is also called the “word of God” and we read about it in Acts 4:31; 8:14, 25; Romans 10:17 and so on. When our Lord Jesus Christ spoke He said about the Word of God in John 2:22; 4:50; 5:24, 38; 8:31, 37, 43; 10:35; 12:48; 14:24; 15:3, 20, 25; 17:6, 14, 17, 20 and so on. From John 14 through 17 we learn that the spoken and written words are of the same importance, as far as we should be concerned. Only those who wish to take light of the Lord Jesus Christ’s words to His disciples and also to the Father in John 14 through 17 will insist on the word “scripture” in discussing about the inspiration of the Word of God.

(to be cont. Part - 5.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 25 Jan 2007 1:34:09 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-5.3)

In John 1:1 we are told that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Word and he was with God before the beginning. When the Word became ‘flesh’ and lived among men, He told us, “I cannot do anything of myself; as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous, because I do not seek my will, but the will of him that has sent me.” (John 5:30) “And the words which you hear is not mine, but that of the Father, who has sent me.” (John 14:24)

The spoken and written Word of God was given to man through the Son.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 26 Jan 2007 1:02:57 PM Close
God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.1)

Inspiration is Breathing-out by God:

In summarizing his arguments, on 6 Jan 2007 Moses LemuelRaj wrote, “The ORIGINATION of the word of God was when God MOVED His prophets to SPEAK His word, or ORACLES: Many of those oracles are preserved for us in WRITING. They were God's breathed-OUT words. But when the devil SPOKE, ‘Ye shall not surely die,’ that was a LIE! Those words were NOT breathed-OUT of God either directly, or thru His prophets. Yet, that phrase is a part of INSPIRED SCRIPTURE. 2 Peter talks about the SPOKEN ORACLES, not SCRIPTURES. The breathing-OUT (see 2 Sam 23:2) happened the FIRST time when those words were SPOKEN. Unfortunately, many people who misunderstand the term IN-spiration, apply that word to the ORIGINAL GIVING of the Scriptures as breathed-OUT. The ‘scripture’ referred to in 2 Tim 3:16, is connected to the ‘holy scriptures’ found in verse 15, which Timothy HAD with him. 2 Tim 3:16 has NO REFERENCE to the original autographs, but the ‘scriptures’ in general, INCLUDING the original autographs.” ---- This summary contradicts what he wrote just before that on 6 Jan 2007. As I quoted earlier, in the Introduction, he wrote that men wrote the scriptures and then God breathed the Holy Spirit in those writings to make them ALIVE (the emphasis was his). Now he writes the breathing-out by God took place before the writing. Which one is the scriptural statement? Two different and contradictory statements on the same day on the same subject!!

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God-breathed Written Word
- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.2)

In this quotation from Moses LemuelRaj we read, “The breathing-OUT (see 2 Sam 23:2) happened the FIRST time when those words were SPOKEN.” Is he saying that the “breathing-OUT happened the FIRST time?” I think so. He contradicts himself in the next sentence, which reads, “Unfortunately, many people who misunderstand the term IN-spiration, apply that word to the ORIGINAL GIVING of the Scriptures as breathed-OUT.” It appears contradictory statements on doctrines are not strange to him.

I ask the readers to read what he wrote carefully. Let me quote it again, “But when the devil SPOKE, ‘Ye shall not surely die,’ that was a LIE! Those words were NOT breathed-OUT of God either directly, or thru His prophets.” ---- Is he saying that this verse is not a part of the scriptures, the written words? Is he trying to teach is that the phrase “Ye shall not surely die” is not part of what God revealed to Moses, the living oracle that was given to Moses in the wilderness by the Originator of faith and salvation as stated by Stephen in Acts 7:38? Remember, that conversation in question between the serpent and the Woman took place in the Garden of Eden when she did not have any children. According to Moses LemuelRaj, Moses – the servant of God - who was born and lived more than a couple of thousands of years after, even close to a thousand years after the flood, wrote about that incident without any revelation from God. Is he teaching that Moses wrote it from folk-lore? Did Moses concocted it snatching it out of the wilderness air (these days men do this from the ceiling) and God later inspired it to make it ALIVE (the emphasis is of Moses LemuelRaj)? Moses LemuelRaj wrote that it was “NOT breathed-OUT of God either directly, or thru His prophets.” (6 Jan 2007 03:06:13 posting, 1st paragraph, 4th line)... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.3)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.3)

... Through this assertion, he asserts that 2 Timothy 3:16 is false. He said that Moses did not write this and God did not breathed (inspired) it. Or, is this a cleverly manufactured strategy of Moses LemuelRaj to discredit KJV as scripture? Of course, Moses –the servant of God and not Moses LemuelRaj - did not write that. What Moses wrote was in Hebrew and not in English. In Hebrew it does not sound the same way as in the English translation. That is the only explanation to justify Moses LemuelRaj’s statement. In one stroke of his finger, he wrote that the inspired scripture is what God breathed-OUT. Within moments after that, with another stroke he also wrote that this breathing-out took place after the book was written. Then in the next stroke of his finger, he wrote that it was not written or breathed-OUT. What is it? Did God breathe-out or not? If God did not breath-OUT and Moses did not write it in Genesis 3, then how did it come to be there? How did it become part of the inspired Word of God? Are we seeing the twilight of heresy in Moses LemuelRaj’s writing?

When trying to explain what is ‘inspiration,’ Moses LemuelRaj used 2 Samuel 23:2, 2 Peter, and 2 Timothy 3:16 (6 Jan 2007). Let me quote Moses LemuelRaj, “2 Timothy talks about the Scriptures given to us by the inspiration of God - a process wherein God has made them ALIVE by breathing into those WRITTEN words His Spirit!” In doing so, he also ruled out 2 Timothy 3:16 has anything to do with the Word of God as originally given. It is the same person, who said that the scriptures are inspired who says that inspiration is not breathing-out by God. Then He says that KJV is inspired. Let me ask Moses LemuelRaj, expecting an answer, “When was KJV inspired?” According to you, it should be after they completed their translation. Let us take a closer look into 2 Timothy 3:16... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.4)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.4)

... We read about ¡¥out-breathing¡¦ and not ¡¥in-breathing¡¦ in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. ¡§Every scripture is divinely inspired and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be complete, fully fitted to every good works.¡¨ ¡§Every scripture divinely inspired is also profitable¡¨ tell us that it is not some or few scriptures, but every scripture is divinely inspired. Every scripture is every book in the Word of God and not every manuscript. When Moses wrote the laws as asked by Jehovah, that was the scripture as it was originally given. It was inspired. So was the written (scripture) book of Joshua. So are all the books in the Bible.

On 6 Jan 2007 Moses LemuelRaj also wrote, ¡§The WRITTEN word of God is INSPIRED, that is, FILLED with the BREATH of God, and has LIFE. Scripture has life because God breathed INTO its words.¡¨ This is another way of twisting the scriptures. How does one come with the idea that God-breathed means ¡§filled with the breath of God?

In 2 Timothy 3:16 we read that every scripture is divinely inspired or God-breathed (ƒáƒÕƒßƒàƒÞƒÕƒåƒãƒäƒßs - THEOPNEUSTOS). We do not see or read this truth of God-breathing in translations, including KJV. We read only about the scriptures being ¡¥divinely inspired.¡¦ When using the translations like KJV, this ¡¥God-breathed¡¦ is to be inferred and not derived from the scriptures. We come to learn about the real meaning of the doctrine of ¡¥inspiration of the Word of God¡¦ only if we look into the Word of God as it was originally given and written. This reality enlightens us that the translations are not God-breathed. This includes KJV. They are translations... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.5)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.5)

... When studying this verse alone in the original language, we come to realize that when God gave the revelation of His will and mind to man, it was given by the means of God out-breathing, THEOPNEUSTOS (= God-breathed. This is the meaning of this Greek word.). It is revealed so plainly and in simplicity. All we have to do is to believe. No one has to contradict himself/herself by his/her fallible logic. Moses LemuelRaj not only said that certain portions of Genesis was ¡§NOT breathed-OUT of God either directly, or thru His prophets,¡¨ but also ¡§2 Tim 3:16 has NO REFERENCE to the original autographs.¡¨ He is hung up on ¡§autographs,¡¨ a word that is not in the scriptures. Not even in a translation that he reveres, KJV. Why? That is how he establishes unscriptural teachings by introducing unscriptural and unjustifiable terminologies. An ¡¥autograph¡¦ belongs to its author when written in his handwriting. God did not write any book in his own handwritings to call anything as the autograph of the Word of God.

If 2 Timothy 3:16 has no reference to the Word of God as it was originally given, then what do the word THEOPNEUSTOS in that verse means? This Greek word appears only in 2 Timothy 3:16 and nowhere else in the Greek literature. This is a word that was coined by the Holy Spirit to teach us about the truth of the authority of the Word of God. It is a combination of ƒÁƒÕƒßs (THEOS = God) and ƒàƒÞƒåƒÕƒãƒäƒßs (PNEUSTOS = breathing) from ƒàƒÞƒßƒØ (PNOE) which means breath or wind. Thus ƒÁƒÕƒßs + ƒàƒåƒÕƒãƒäƒßs (THEOS + PNEUSTOS) is ƒáƒÕƒßƒàƒÞƒåƒÕƒãƒäƒßs (THEOPNEUSTOS) which means ¡¥God-breathed.¡¦ The motive power is God and God out-breathed the words and man in-breathed those words and wrote them for our benefit. God¡¦s will and mind is made known to man by the breathing of God. This out-breathing of God is the inspiration of the scriptures. Let me emphasize:... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.6)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.6)

... THIS OUT-BREATHING OF GOD IS THE INSPIRATION OF THE WRITTEN WORD, THE SCRIPTURE. The originals out-breathing of the Originator always carry its value of inspiration, immutability, and infallibility. The copies and translations are scriptures as they teach us about the revelation of God that was given in the originals. Similarly Adam who received the out-breathing of God too reflected the glory of God to the creation, till he sinned by disobeying the command of God and eating the fruit of the forbidden tree. When he became an adulterated copy as in 2 Corinthians 2:17, that is when he sinned he knew that he was naked and needed to be covered. The imperfection was brought in by the man who was created in the image and likeness of God. Similarly in the copies and translations imperfection (corruption or adulteration) takes place by commission, omission, or many other ways. They are copies and translations of the inspired Word of God, and in that sense we revere them. Their importance and authority is derived from its source, the original God-breathed revelations of God’s mind and will which was from the Originator of all things, the Word (John 1:1).

I mentioned earlier that the Holy Spirit coined this word THEOPNEUSTOS (= God-breathed) and it is not used in the Greek literature in any other place. It appears in the Word of God only and it is in 2 Timothy 3:16. And it is in connection with the written word of God, beginning at the origin of every scripture – every book in the Bible. That is what we read as, “Every scripture” (“All scripture” in KJV). We should not make light of the word that is coined for the first time by the Holy Spirit to teach us about the authority of the Word of God as written and given by the prophets and apostles... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.7)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.7)

... We should not fall into the teaching of those who claim that men wrote the books and after that God breathed on them to be called Word of God. They are God-breathed before being written. That is why they are the Word of God.

We read in 2 Timothy 3:16, “Every scripture is divinely inspired.” The Greek word used by Paul as it was breathed into him by God was, PASA GRAPHE THEOPHEUSTOS. The various manuscripts agree on this. It was to be understood in a literal manner as, “Every written word is God-breathed.” It was not, let me repeat, it was not, “Every God-breathed word is written,” or “God-breathed on every written word.” If it was so, then every spoken Word of God must have been written. We breathe out our words to communicate our mind and will to others. When we say, “God-breathed word,” we imply God spoke those words to reveal His mind and will. When Paul wrote what was God-breathed, he did not write to say, “Every God-breathed word is scripture.” If it was so, then the spoken words of God would have been taken as not the Word of God. There are spoken words of God that are not written. They are also God’s word as the written words are. On 6 Jan 2007 Moses LemuelRaj wrote that God-breathed into what man wrote and that is what is meant by ‘inspiration of the scriptures’ in 2 Timothy 3:16. I ask him to explain, where do we read that “Every scripture became God-breathed (inspired)?” Our Lord Jesus Christ asked the Pharisees about how it is written in the scriptures and how do they read? He was questioning their interpretations of the Old Testament according to their preferred doctrines. In the 21st century we read about another such teaching that KJV is inspired and they twist the scriptures and refuse to cut it in a straight line.

(To be cont. Part-6.8)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.8)

When KJVOs like Moses LemuelRaj claims that the written word of God was inspired later by the out-breathing of God by the Holy Spirit (6 Jan 2007), he makes the ‘inspiration’ according to the general use of that word by the world. The world uses that word, ‘inspiration,’ in the sense that something fills many with high or referent emotion. A book written by a man is said to be inspired or to inspire the readers. The book inspires in that sense. A charismatic speaker inspires his audience. KJVOs teach that the inspiration of the scriptures is similar to that. They receive an emotional uplifting and they consider this emotional feeling is the result of the inspiration. They do not hesitate to teach that it has very little to do with God-breathing into the prophets and apostles.

Human experience, we call it history of man, bears witness to the unparallel strength of the Word of God to make man to think and act along independent lines that may or may not be mutually exclusive. What is our responsibility in this world of swift and lightning changes? It is to seek and hold fast the ancient God given or God-breathed truth. From Genesis and other books in the Bible, we learn that man was called into existence by God’s will into being when He gave Adam by His grace the gift of life directly by the breath of His mouth. When He breathed into the nostrils of that mass of compressed dust, it was an ‘out-breathing’ and not an ‘in-breathing.’ God ‘breathed out’ into the nostrils of the figure that He made with compressed dust (Genesis 2:7). When God ‘out-breathed,’ the mass of compressed dust ‘in-breathed’ it and became a living soul. This ‘out-breathing’ of God should not be confounded with the ‘in-breathing’ of the compressed dust. His name was called Adam... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.9)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.9)

... Following the first Adam, all his descendants take the first in-breathing from the air when they are born into the class of Adam, man. We do not get the out-breathing of God when we are born into the class of Adam, sinners.

Let us take another look into 2 Timothy 3:16, “Every scripture is divinely inspired, …” In the original Greek language it reads, “PASA GRAPHE THEOPNEUSTOS …” That is what is meant by, “Every scripture is God-breathed.” What do this mean? Does this mean that the spoken words of Lord Jesus Christ were not inspired as Moses LemuelRaj implies? Our Lord Jesus Christ only spoke what he heard of the Father. He did not write any of them for us to read. In the Old Testament times when God spoke to His prophets and asked them to write them down, they were God-breathed. When did God out-breath His words? Was it when He gave to the prophets or after they wrote it down? He breathed when it was given by the Son to the prophets. They heard it as Adam in-breathed what God out-breathed. They in-breathed what was out-breathed by God. Then they prophesied and wrote them down. They wrote what they heard. In that sense the written words were God-breathed. The written words, the scriptures, were the inspired word of God only because they were exactly what were communicated to them by the Son. Let me provide a more literal translation of the part from 2 Timothy 3:16, “Every written Word is God-breathed.”

Every scripture is inspired as it came into existence for us on this earth, but the translations are not. They represent what was revealed by the will of God by the Holy Spirit using holy men of God. These translations have value. So are the copies. They must be exact copies. If they differ, where they differ, there they fail to uphold the inspiration of the first written volume... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.10)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.10)

... In Romans 16:26 we read, “But which has now been made manifest, and by prophetic scriptures, according to commandment of eternal God, made known for obedience of faith to al the nations.” Here we read that the scriptures are what were written by the commandment of the everlasting God. Only the originals can make this claim. The copies of the Old Testament were completed by Jewish scribes. Those God-breathed words will not pass away (Matthew 5:18; 24:35; Luke 16:17; 21:33). The Old Testament as we have is identified as divinely inspired scriptures while conforming to the originals. Similarly, the descendants of Adam could claim certain attributes that are in them that could be compared to that of God. One of them is all men posses a body, soul, and spirit that parallels that of the Trinity.

Inspiration is very similar to how we speak. We develop our thought in our minds and they are framed into words and sentences and using our diaphragm-‘sound box’- lips-teeth-mouth combination we ‘out-breath’ them. Those who hear them should in-take it through their ears and could recite them according to their ability to understand. The reciter is not to change what he/she heard. When they speak and write what they heard then they are communicating on a fact based manner. When they do so, then they are witnessing what they heard and saw. That is why in our judicial system witnesses are asked to state what they saw and heard. If they change by omission, commission, and/or willful manipulations, then they are not witnessing. In case of willful manipulation of facts, they will be held under contempt of the court as one who committed perjury. Usually the recounting or reciting of what they heard and saw may not be 100% accurate as the speakers think, but will be close... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.11)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.11)

... That is one of the reasons we rely on eye-witnesses account much more that of hear-say account. We could extend this to writings also. In translating and copying of scriptures, errors could happen because of human weaknesses and tendencies. At the same time there were no errors in what was out-breathed by God, His words. We call this the Word of God. That which was God-breathed will not change till the heaven and earth stand, though man may change it by his will (Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; 21:33). A translation, when it is a literal one, carries the authority of the original words. That is the reason why we translate the speeches of a foreign tongue into our native tongue by a person whom we trust and know that he will give a literal translation of what was said by the original speaker. We also know that that the translation of the speech is only a translation and not have the same authenticity as that of what was said by original speaker. It is because of the difficulty in translating from one language to another; due to customs, idioms, expressions, mannerisms of the persons involved, etc.

Such out-breathing by God has taken place more than once and is recorded for our learning in more than one place in the scriptures. The first place is in Genesis 2:7, “And Jehovah Elohim formed Man (ADAM), dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and Man (ADAM) became a living soul.” We do not read about the dust being mixed with water to form Man. God used only the dust. By compressing the dust, God formed Man. (It took man thousands of years to discover the ‘compressed metal technology’ and the ‘electrostatic dusting’ process.) Into this compressed dust, God breathed the breath of life and Man became a living soul. Adam received his life from God to reflect the glory of God to the creation... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.12)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.12)

... This he failed when he sinned by disobeying the command of God and eating the fruit of the forbidden tree. The Word of God tells us that this act of disobedience was an act of rapine, an act of rebellion, to be equal with God. We read this in Philippians 2:5-11. In KJV it is translated as ¡§robbery to be equal with God.¡¨ Rapine is the translation of the Greek word ƒÑƒâƒàƒÑƒ×ƒÝƒßƒÞ (ARPAGMON) which means ¡¥an act of seizing.¡¦ It is more than a robbery. In Philippians 2 we read how God viewed the act of disobedience of Adam. God tells us that it was an act of seizing to be equal with God. Man¡¦s rebellion against the sovereign God. God view this as a failed coup, in effect, if I could use that expression. Till that day Jehovah-Elohim walked with Adam and the Woman in the Garden of Eden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3). He talked with them. That is, God out-breathed his words to Adam and the Woman. The day Adam acted to be equal with God through his rapine act, he was cast out of the garden of God and God stopped ¡¥out-breathing¡¦ His words as He did before.

God being merciful and kind continued to ¡¥out-breath¡¦ His words through the prophets and apostles and not into a shape of compressed dust. We read about this in Hebrews 1:1-3, ¡§God having spoken in many parts and in many ways formerly to the fathers in the prophets, at the end of these days has spoken to us in the person of the Son, whom he has established heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the effulgence of his glory and the expression of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power¡K¡¨ This act of revealing God¡¦s mind and will to man is what we read in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. In creation, the out-breathing took place only in connection with Man and that was to make him a living soul... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.13)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.13)

... That Man acted to seize an opportunity to be equal with God, even after hearing the Word of God directly from God the same manner he received his life. Are we in the habit of being in the act of seizure to be equal with God by disobeying and/or changing His immutable, infallible, and inspired (God-breathed) Word of God? If we are doing this willfully, then we are to answer our actions before God. If changes are made because of the language barrier, then it is excusable and God did that in the past and did show that to us in the New Testament.

The first ¡¥God-breathed¡¦ was in connection with the creation of Man. There is another God-breath in connection with the creation of the Assembly on the 50th day after the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. On the Day of Pentecost, where the disciples were gathered together, it took place at Jerusalem. In Acts 2:2 we read, ¡§And there came suddenly a sound out of heaven as of a violent impetuous blowing and filled all the house where they were sitting.¡¨ In KJV we read it as the ¡§rushing mighty wind.¡¨ The word translated as ¡§wind¡¨ in KJV is ƒàƒÞƒßƒØ (PNOE). The Greek word for ¡¥wind¡¦ is ƒÑƒÞƒÕƒÝƒßs (ANEMOS) and it appears in Matthew 7:25; 8:26, 27; 11:7; 14:24, 30, 32; 24:31; Mark 4:37, 39, 41; 6:48, 51; 13:27; Luke 7:24; 8:23, 24, 25; John 6:18; Acts 27:4, 7, 14, 15; Ephesians 4:14; James 3:4; Jude 12; Revelation 6:13; 7:1. The Greek word PNOE in Acts 2:2 is not a wind... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-6.14)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-6.14)

... It was heard as a hard breathing as a blowing of what was out-breathed. This is significant when we realize that the Holy Spirit used the same word, ƒàƒÞƒßƒØ (PNOE), to tell us about the God-breathed (ƒáƒÕƒßƒàƒÞƒÕƒåƒãƒäƒßs - THEOPNEUSTOS) scriptures. This god-breathing took place on the day the new creation of the body of Christ, the Assembly (the Church), was connected with its glorified Head in heaven, the Lord Jesus Christ. The creation of the Assembly took place by the breathing of God as in the case of the creation of Man, Adam, from the dust of the earth. We who are members of the Assembly, the body of Christ, are nothing but dust. This breathing of God was on the occasion of the beginning of the Assembly as an earthly organism. It consisted of a few disciples. They were uneducated Galileans, they ran away from their Lord at the time of crisis, one of them denied Him three times, all refused to believe that He rose from the dead, one of them even refused to believe the testimony of those who saw Him after resurrection, all were like the compressed dust ready to fly away in the wind. When God breathed on that body of fragile disciples, they became a living organism - the Assembly, the Body of Christ, the Bride, the House of God. The Assembly, the Bride, received her life from its Head, the risen-ascended-glorified Christ being in heaven. If we look around, we realize that man has failed again in keeping the Body of Christ that was formed by the breathing of God to be pure in accordance with the God-breathed (inspired) Word of God. This failure is very similar to that of Adam in the Garden of Eden. It is very similar to our failure in producing an exact translation of the Word of God as it was originally given.

(To be cont. Part-7)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.1)

Is Inspiration A Process?

On 6 Jan 2007 Moses LemuelRaj wrote, “…We are talking about the ‘inspiration’ of something that is WRITTEN, not SPOKEN. …” He also wrote, “so we understand that INSPIRATION of the Scriptures as God breathing His BREATH of life INTO the (WRITTEN) SCRIPTURES, and thereby making them ALIVE! That is what inspiration of the Scriptures means. When the Bible says ‘All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,’ we understand that the Scriptures were given by the PROCESS of inspiration, wherein God has breathed INTO them His spirit and thus made them alive. Thus inspired Scriptures constitute LIVING WORDS of God. And those living words we are referring to are WRITTEN words, for that is what ‘Scripture’ is - WRITTEN stuff!” --- Is he saying that when God spoke, it was not a breathing-out? If God made them alive by breathing into what was written by man, then it should have been without life (similar to Quran, Vedas, Upanishads, Plato’s Republic, etc.) before He breathed. The writing of God-breathed words was a process, but God-breathing (divine inspiration) His words to the prophets and apostles was not a process, it was an act of God to reveal His mind and will.

What is a process? Moses LemuelRaj, a ‘Six Sigma’ expert, should know the answer. A process has three main components. The first is the supplier base. The second is the action taken on what is received from the suppliers into a product or service using at least five sub-components. These sub-components are: manpower, methods, machine, material, and environment. All these are part of the manufacturer of the product or the provider of the service. The third is the customers. The process undergoes a continuous improvement effort using the input of the satisfied and dissatisfied customers. This is known as “listening to the customers’ voice.”... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-7.2)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.2)

... This continuous improvement is mandated by the process being designed and operated by sinful men who are fallible. Unfortunately, Moses LemuelRaj considers the God-breathing His will and mind to man is a process that is similar to a man-made process that is founded in man’s intelligence and handiwork. To him, the inspiration happened not when the words were supplied to the prophets and apostles. To him the inspiration took place after men transformed what God-breathed into a useful product by writing them or printed them. That is why he wrote that this action of inspiration took place after the product and service was given to the customers, the people. (I expect a rhetorical statement from Moses LemuelRaj; “Where did I write this?” My reply to that will be; you wrote this on 6 Jan 2007, of course, not in the same words.) All the translations and revisions are to him a continuous improvement to what the prophets and apostles received as God-breathed. The prophets and apostles used their methods (example: the language, how to write), manpower (example: the writer), machines (example: the scrolls, the papyrus, the quill or pen), environment (example: the time in which they lived), and material (there is no example. It was the God-breathed living words.)

How the God-breathing did take place? We who live in the 21st century must look deep into the written Word, the scripture, to understand this. It is written in Psalm 13:6-7, “The words of Jehovah are pure words, silver tried in the furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou, Jehovah, wilt keep them, thou wilt preserve them from this generation for ever.” First the words that God-breathed were pure words. There are over 5,600 Hebrew words in the Old Testament. Even an iota or a tittle will not be changed... (cont.)

(to be cont. Part-7.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 6 Feb 2007 1:19:23 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.3)

... That is what the Son said in His Sermon on the Mount and is written in Matthew 5:18. He also said it in other times and it is written in Luke 16:17 and 21:33. In the Greek language there are about 96,000 words, but only about 5,000 of them where used by the prophets and apostles to write the New Testament. There are over 90,000 words that God rejected from the Greek language. KJVOs are eager to accept many of those rejected words by God in breathing-out His words. One of such eagerly accepted Greek word is AUTOGRAPHOS. They talk about ‘autographs’ which we do not see even in KJV! At the same time they embrace words that are not even in KJV and no scriptural support. Who are we to accept and introduce words rejected by God when he breathed His Word to the prophets and apostles into God’s word? Are we greater than God? Do we know how to improve the Word of God? Moses LemuelRaj thinks so!!!

Do we have the capability, intelligence, and wisdom to make continuous improvement to what God-breathed? Adam thought that he could. The Woman thought she could with the help of the serpent. Both of them failed. Man fell. Sin came into this world. Death came in as its result. By introducing the words that were rejected by God will produce condemnation from the one who breathed those words. The importance of the infallibility, immutability, and inspiration of the Word of God as it was originally given is of supreme importance to our faith and conduct.

(To be cont. Part-7.4)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 6 Feb 2007 1:20:51 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.4)

In the Word of God, we read too many times that God spoke. Only in 2 Timothy 3:16 we read about the words that are God-breathed and written down. On this Moses LemuelRaj wrote, “…We are talking about the ‘inspiration’ of something that is WRITTEN, not SPOKEN. …” (6 Jan 2007). It is written that God spoke. We read this in KJV also. Even in KJV we read about not to write what God spoke. When God told them not to write, they did not write them. KJVOs, including Moses LemuelRaj, say that because the prophets and apostles obeyed God those words that were not written but spoken are not God-breathed (inspired) words of God. One of the examples is seen in Revelation 10:4. While denying the God-breathing aspect of those unwritten words of God, they do not have any qualm in changing the scriptures by adding and removing to the God-breathed written Word. Who do they think they are? I ask this because they are changing the inspired, immutable, and infallible Word of God to establish their preferred doctrine of ‘the inspiration of KJV.’ They are emphatic on “written words” as scriptures. They are adamant that those written scriptures are the only inspired and not the spoken words. They ignore the written words in KJV that there are God’s words that are spoken (breathed out by god in human words) and not written. What John heard and not wrote (example: similar to Revelation 10:4) inspired? If it was, why John was asked not to write them? Because John obeyed the command, did those words become uninspired, not God-breathed - THEOPNEUSTOS? We who cherish the God-breathed (inspired) words as it was given delight in all that is revealed to us as words from the Originator (2 Corinthians 2:17). This Originator is the Alpha and Omega, the Origin and the End, The Originator and the Finisher... (Cont. )

(To be cont. Part-7.5)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 6 Feb 2007 1:22:29 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.5)

... As the Finisher, he finished the work, including the revelation of the will and mind of God. No one should add or take away from it. KJVOs are doing the unimaginable of adding and taking away from what is God-breathed in the name of improving it through their continuous improvement programs!

When God-breathed (inspired) His will and mind using the words of human language (Hebrew, Chaldees, and Greek), He knew that changes will happen when translations are made. Therefore the Originator, the Son, told about its unchangeable character in Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; and 21:33.

Inspiration is not a process as KJVOs asserts. It is the supplying of the original words to man. When man wrote them down, they were not allowed to make changes to what was breathed into them. When those words were copied and translated, changes were not allowed. If changes happened, then contamination took place as direct result of human fallibility. We are not allowed even to have our own private interpretations to what was given. We are asked to cut them in a straight line. KJVOs violate these entire God given rules that should govern the teaching of the scriptural truths.

(To be cont. Part-7.6)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 6 Feb 2007 1:23:45 PM Close
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George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-7.6)

God gives and man must take it. Man has no authority to decide what he wants to accept and what he wants to reject. There is no bargaining power given to man about the Word of God as it was originally given. Unfortunately, KJVOs introduces words that were rejected by God at the time He breathed them to the prophets and apostles. “Autograph” (AUTOGRAPHOS – Greek) is one of the examples. They also reject what was coined by God when He breathed His word to the prophets and apostles. An example is THEOPNEUSTOS in 2 Timothy 3:16. While rejecting, they find it difficult to completely refuse its meaning when asked about how the inspiration took place. An example is Moses LemuelRaj’s explanation on 6 Jan 2007 that after writing the books by men God breathed and inspired them by the Holy Spirit. Thus they accept what God rejected and reject what God made for the purpose of revealing His will and mind to man.

Is inspiration a process? No! Inspiration is not a process. Inspiration is God breathing out to man His words. It is an act of God.

(To be cont. Part-8)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 8 Feb 2007 2:04:20 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-8.1)

The Bereans and The Scriptures:

In Acts 17, we read about the character of the Jews in Berea and the benefit they received from that. They are:
1. The Bereans recognized the authority of the written Word of God regarding the truth.
2. Their inquiry was not whether the new teachings by Apostle Paul and Apostle Silas were “according to their previously established and accepted ideas.” They knew that the Word of God as it was originally given was inspired, but the previously accepted ideas from learned men were not. They judged what was spoken by the apostles with the help of the scriptures.
3. The result was, “Many believed.”

The Jews in Berea had a great advantage of having Jewish commentaries and interpretations (Mishna, Targum, etc.). They placed the ‘scriptures’ above those commentaries and interpretations. Even when scriptures were copied, they were very careful not to make mistakes or changes to them. If they made certain changes, they made footnotes. These footnotes were not commentaries or interpretations, but they were about WORDS and LETTERS of the manuscripts. The custodians of these manuscripts were known as SOPHARIM, from SOPHAR – meaning to count. From the mistaken idea of reverence to God, they changed the words in the text and placed notes in the margin about those changes. They wrote the name of God, JEHOVAH (JHVH or YHVH in corresponding Hebrew letters) and read it as ADONAI, to show their reverence to God’s name. The Alexandrian Jewish Rabbis translated the Old Testament to Greek, called Septuagint (LXX), and in that they used the Greek word KURIOS (= Lord) in place of JEHOVAH. Following this mistaken piety, the translators of KJV translated Jehovah as “LORD” and Adonai as “Lord.” In Exodus 6:3; Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 it is written that JEHOVAH or YEHOVAH is the name of God... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-8.2)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 8 Feb 2007 2:06:45 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-8.2)

... Only at these places the KJV translators retained ‘Jehovah’ without changing it to LORD. Thus KJV ceases to be 100% literal (this is only one example), because they gave previous translations and Jewish customs more importance than the God-breathed (THEOPNEUSTOS) Word of God as they had in the original languages. Our Lord Jesus Christ, the originator of the Word of God (2 Corinthians 2:17), addressed these changes of omission and commission in His ‘Sermon on the Mount’ (Matthew 5:18) and later in Luke 16:17 and 21:33. Thus the Lord Jesus Christ showed his concern about the teachings of men about God’s word and assured us that no such changes will prevail. This He did in the beginning and the end of His ministry. To Moses LemuelRaj, this God-breathed name of God, Jehovah, is not inspired because KJV changed them to LORD. I do not think that the translators have any power to change any name, especially that of God. Where ever the instruction, “Jehovah is my name,” was missing the translators changed JEHOVAH to LORD.

In order to justify their unscriptural teaching, KJVOs also have resorted to teach that the ‘inspiration’ took place only after the books were written and not before. After coming up with such an explanation, it was easy for them to indoctrinate that the translations and copies were also inspired of God by the Holy Spirit.

Errors occurred in copying because of similarity of pronunciation. Errors could also happen when certain projection in Hebrew of Greek letters were not that pronounced in copying.

In addition to these, certain interpretations were incorporated while copying. This is similar to making paraphrased translations to make the scriptures more understandable to all. These changes could be detected by the careful use of what is known as “Textual Criticism.”... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-8.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 8 Feb 2007 2:07:57 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-8.3)

... This is the method of comparing various manuscripts in the original and the active use of internal evidences. This method also includes comparing them to the older manuscripts as they become available. They may also refer to ancient translations. There are instances in which those who conducted this study came to conclude that certain verses in certain manuscripts are questionable about their authenticity. Those of us who do not have sufficient knowledge and resources to conduct such a study are safe to accept their judgment.

One of such verses is 1 John 5:7. In KJV it is, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” Many believers find that this verse is beneficial in their argument on Trinity. Unfortunately, the authenticity of this verse is questionable. The reasons are: KJV was translated from manuscript that is known as ‘Textus Receptus’ (TR) or “Received Text.” When more ancient manuscripts were found, this verse was missing in them. In addition to this, when men like Augustine and Chrysostom explained the doctrine of Trinity during the 3rd and 4th centuries from the scriptures, they did not mention this verse. (I have not found any reference to this verse in their writing.) It is believed that this verse was added by some with good intention at a later date. But adding to the Word of God or changing it to justify our ideas are prohibited in the Word of God. It is God’s word and not that of man’s. This is the reason why the infallibility, immutability, and inspiration to the Word of God are attributed only as it was originally given.

(To be cont. Part-9)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 12 Feb 2007 12:31:15 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-9.1)

The Immutability of the Word of God:

Our Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed the immutability of the scriptures and it is written in Matthew 5:18, ¡§For verily I say unto you, until the heaven and the earth pass away, one iota or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all come to pass.¡¨ This was a direct reference to the Greek translation of the Old Testament, known as Septuagint (LXX), by the Alexandrian Jews and also to the changes made by the Sopherim, because of their piety.

What is this ¡§Tittle¡¨ (ƒÛƒÕƒâƒÑƒÙƒÑ - KERAIA = little horn) in Matthew 5:18? In Hebrew language, this is called CHEREN (= horn) or TAAGIM (= little crowns). If these small projections are missing, then they will be read as another letter and the meaning of the words may change or become meaningless. Let me explain by using two of the Hebrew letters:
The Hebrew letter DALETH has a projection to the right after the vertical line. With out that projection (¡¥crown¡¦ or ¡¥little horn¡¦), it could be read as RESH. [The limitations of the KB Forum may not allow me to place these two Hebrew letters for your perusal. Let me try to illustrate them using the letter ¡¥L.¡¦ If we rotate this letter about 180 degrees, then it will look like the Hebrew letter ¡¥Daleth,¡¦ having a little projection to the top-right. If we drop that little projection, then it will look like the Hebrew letter ¡¥Resh.¡¦]

Let us assume that a copyist made an error or two in writing the name ¡§David¡¨ in Hebrew. The correct writing should be DALETH-followed-by-ALEPH-followed-by-WAW-followed-by-YOD-followed-by-DALETH and is pronounced DAVEED. An error could make it to read as RAVID, DAVIR, or RAVIR. Our Lord said that whatever man may do in the name of piety or unknowingly, the Word of God will not change. This included those little crowns or horns that are part of other Hebrew alphabets, also... (cont.)

(To be cont. Part-9.2)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 12 Feb 2007 12:33:36 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-9.2)

... God breathed His words in that language and the prophets wrote them in that language, and we call them Old Testament. The Lord Jesus Christ told that the word of God that is established for ever in heaven will not be changed even in words or letters. Please read Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; 21:33.

In Luke 16:17 we read, “But it is easier that the heaven and the earth should pass away than that one tittle (KERAIA = little horn) should fail.” Matthew 5 was at the beginning of our Lord’s ministry on this earth, while Luke 16 was towards the end of His ministry. In both the emphasis was on the law, the Old Testament. At a later time He included the New Testament with a similar proclamation and we read it in Luke 21:33, “The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall in no wise pass away.” It is His, the Originator’s, words as He spoke that will not pass away. Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; and 21:33 are words of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God. He told this when He was sent by the Father to save us from our condition of the wrath of God abiding on us (John 3:36). We should not be ungrateful to the Father who loved us while we were yet sinners and in enmity with God. The Son is the one who taught us that His words are immutable. The immutability of the written Word of God is derived from its origin and that origin was the Son. From Acts 7 we learn that even the Law was given to Moses by the Son. The immutability of the scriptures as we know now is founded in the God-breathing them as His words and not that they were written by pious men and then God breathed to make them alive as Moses LemuelRaj asserts.

(To be cont. Part-9.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 12 Feb 2007 12:35:09 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-9.3)

In Matthew 5:18; Luke 16:17; 21:33 we learn from the lips of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son, that no change will take place in the Word of God because that is established for ever in heaven. This establishment includes individual words that make the sentences and the letters that make the words. In translating the translators change those words and letters. They use foreign words and corresponding letters. That is what the Jews did when they translated the Old Testament into Greek, LXX. They made changes, they changed the words. Even when they copied, they changed the Hebrew words in certain instances and placed foot notes. These foot notes are known as Massoretic notes. These notes are not comments or interpretations. They are about ‘words’ and ‘letters’ of the manuscripts. To those Jews the Son, the Originator, said that their changes will not stand. The immutability of the scriptures as it was originally given was extended to words and letters alike.

It is written in John 10:35, “… the scripture cannot be broken.” This revelation about the written Word of God, the scripture, came from the Lord Jesus Christ.

In Galatians 3:16 we read, “But to Abraham were the promises addressed, and to his seed: he does not say, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed; which is Christ.” Here we are reminded of the promise to Abraham by Jehovah as written in Genesis 21:12. Apostle Paul received what was God-breathed (THEOPNEUSTOS = inspired – KJV) tells us that we should not read Genesis 21:12 as, “For in Isaac shall thy seeds be called,” in plural. It should be read in singular as it was told (God-breathed – THEOPNEUTSTOS) by God and revealed by God to Moses (God-breathed – THEOPNEUSTOS) and as written by Moses in Genesis 21:12. This was over 1,500 years before Paul wrote the Epistle to Galatians... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-9.4)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 12 Feb 2007 12:36:35 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-9.4)

... Moses wrote Genesis in Hebrew and Paul wrote Galatians in Greek. None of them wrote in English. Abraham did not write that down, when Jehovah made that promise. It was Moses who did that writing. Moses wrote it more than 400 years after Abraham heard it from Jehovah. The Son revealed it, God-breathed again the same, to Moses and he wrote the scriptures as he was told. There was the God-breathing and Moses writing that down as he heard. The inspiration, God-breathing, was before the writing. Even the words and letters used by God when that God-breathing took place are established for ever. This is the immutability of the Word of God.

Unfortunately, pious men, with good intentions, do make changes in addition to errors that may happen in copying. We must be aware of this and should develop an attitude of accepting the possibility of errors of omission and/or commission in copies of manuscripts. It is well accepted by those who studied the manuscripts that 1 John 5:7 was added by some to support the doctrine of Trinity. Unfortunately, those who hold infallibility and inspiration to King James Version (KJV) oppose any reference to this.

The immutability of the Word of God is taught by the Lord Jesus Christ. When Moses LemuelRaj wrote on immutability of the Word of God, he was trying to derive it from the Old Testament. He forgets that the New Testament doctrines are to be derived from the New Testament and then the explanations could be enhanced by the Old Testament.

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Reply by : lemuelraj   View Profile   Since : 15 Feb 2007 4:44:35 AM Close
<<One of such verses is 1 John 5:7. In KJV it is, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” Many believers find that this verse is beneficial in their argument on Trinity. Unfortunately, the authenticity of this verse is questionable. The reasons are: KJV was translated from manuscript that is known as ‘Textus Receptus’ (TR) or “Received Text.” When more ancient manuscripts were found, this verse was missing in them. In addition to this, when men like Augustine and Chrysostom explained the doctrine of Trinity during the 3rd and 4th centuries from the scriptures, they did not mention this verse. (I have not found any reference to this verse in their writing.) It is believed that this verse was added by some with good intention at a later date.>>

In this quotation taken from a posting made on 8 Feb 2007 14:07:57, the authenticity of 1 John 5:7 is questioned. 1 John 5:7 is Scripture, and all the objections mentioned here are dealt with in a pdf book "Which Version is Bible?" by Floyd Jones. Please see APPENDIX B - The Johannine Comma, in the book posted at http://groups.google.com/group/According-To-Thy-Word/files

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Feb 2007 1:15:51 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-10.1)

Inerrancy or Infallibility of the Word of God:

If we try to understand this term ‘infallibility’ as an English word we will go away from the scriptural meaning as should be understood from the scriptures. In the English language ‘infallible’ means, “incapable of erring,” or “incapable of failing.” When it is in connection with the Word of God the incapability of erring or failing should not be part of our thought. The word of God is pure words and there is no error or failure in it. When we say that the Word of God is infallible, or the scriptures are infallible as it was originally given, then we are not talking about the capability of failing or erring. We are talking about the attribute of the Word of God that it received from God as it was God-breathed (THEOPNEUSTOS).

We have already seen that the Originator of the Word of God is the Son. He told us that He is the truth. That truth is what we are discussing. In Deuteronomy 32:4 we read, “A God of faithfulness (truth – KJV) without deceit.” Psalm 31:5, “Jehovah, thou God of truth.” Psalm 117:2, “The truth of the Lord endureth for ever.” This is similar to what we read from Psalm 119:89 on immutability, “For ever, O Jehovah, thy word is settled in the heavens.” In Malachi 2:6 we read, “The law of truth was in his mouth.” In John 14:6, “I am the way the truth, and the life.” In John 14:17; 15:26; 16:13 we read about “the Spirit of truth.” John 16:17 we read that the Spirit of truth will guide us into all truth. In 2 Timothy 2:15 we are asked to rightly divide (interpret) the word of truth. James 1:18, “Will begat he us with the word of truth.” 1 Peter 1:22, “Purified your souls in obeying the truth.” We are told by the Son, the Truth, that the Spirit of truth will lead us into all truth. We received the Word of God through the work of that Spirit... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-10.2)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Feb 2007 1:18:31 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-10.2)

... Being truth is what we ought to mean by the infallibility of the Word of God.

When God revealed by God-breathing, He gave the truth about what the serpent said to the woman in the Garden of Eden. The infallibility is not in terms of the truthfulness or falsity of what was said by the serpent, but it was about the truth of what was reported by Moses as God-breathed (divinely inspired) those words of the serpent for Moses to write in the Holy Scriptures. As it came from God to Moses, it became a part of God’s word as quoting the serpent. The words of the Satan (Example: Job 1) and the evil spirits (Example: 1 Kings 22) were also given to men to write as God breathed them to the authors of other books. The creation account is the truth as it was God-breathed (divinely inspired) revelation to Moses. These examples from the Word of God are from the authors of the books who had no personal knowledge about what they wrote or scripted. Some of them were before the creation of man and others were after the creation of man.

(To be cont. Part-10.3)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 19 Feb 2007 1:19:41 PM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-10.3)

In the New Testament, when we read the Epistles to the Ephesians, we read about the eternal counsel of God with respect to our salvation. Only the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were there. When it was given as God-breathed (divinely inspired) to Paul, then it came as the Word of God and Paul wrote it as he heard (as the Word of God when it was originally given) and that which he wrote (the Ephesians scripture as originally given) was immutable and infallible. Everything that we read in the Bible is the truth, because its origin is in the Originator who is the Truth. Infallibility means that. It is not that it is incapable of erring or failing. It will not fail. Failing or erring is not an option for God and His word. Infallibility is the inherent attribute or quality of God and His word. The Word of God is established for ever in heavens. Because the Word of God is immutable, as it was originally given (that is how it is established in heavens), it is the truth. Being the truth, it is infallible or inerrant.

(To be cont. part-11)

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Reply by : wilson609   View Profile   Since : 19 Feb 2007 7:13:39 PM Close
dear bro,
quote"It is not that it is incapable of erring or failing".hope its a keyingin mistake
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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 20 Feb 2007 8:10:58 AM Close
Dear 'wilson609,'

Thank you for your question. I wrote, "It is not that it is incapable of erring or failing."(19 Feb 2007 13:19:41)

Please read it as, "It is not that 'it is incapable of erring or failing.'"

Please do not read it as, "It is not incapable of erring or failing."

When we read, we read as we think, it happens to me a lot of times.

Thank you once again,

Shalom Malekim!!!

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-11.1)

The Extent of the Inspiration, Immutability, and Infallibility of the Word of God:

Our Lord said, “The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall in no wise pass away’ (Mat. 24:35). There we have a glimpse of the immutability of the word of God. The verbal inspiration of the word of God is seen in Psalm 12:6-7. In giving the revelation of the word of God, “Holy men of God spoke under the power of the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:21). There we read about the holy men of God were under the power of the Holy Spirit when they spoke. In Acts 1:8 the disciples were told by the Lord Jesus Christ that they were to receive the same power. In KJV the Greek word PHEROMENOS (= being born along) is translated as “moved by.” Therefore, what we read in 2 Peter 1:21 is that holy men of God spoke while being born along by the Holy Spirit. The motive power was the Holy Spirit. There is a human element involved in this action. That human element was the men of God. God’s will and mind is not only shown to man, but also in man. No one should take this clear teaching of the Holy Spirit about the method of providing the scriptures to establish their own preferred teachings of equating the translations to the level of the originals. A translation is not a literal rendering of the original words or sentences, but it is a rendering in the substantial sense. This substantial sense is a needed necessity because of the difference in the expression of idioms, phrases, syntax, semantics, and so on.

In 2 Timothy 3:16 we read that every scripture is divinely God-breathed (inspired - THEOPNEUSTOS). The motive power is God and God breathed the words. God’s will and mind is made known to man. This is basically what we learn about inspiration of the scriptures... (Cont.)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 20 Feb 2007 2:10:39 PM Close
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(Part-11.2)

... The originals always carried its value of inspiration, immutability, and infallibility. The copies and translations are scriptures as they teach us the revelation of God that was given in the past. Every scripture – all the 66 books in the Bible, the Word of God - is inspired, but the translations are not. As they represent what was revealed by the will of God by the Holy Spirit using holy men of God, these translations have value. So are the copies. They must be exact copies. If they differ, where they differ, there they fail to uphold the inspiration of the first written volume. In Romans 16:26 we read, “But which has now been made manifest, and by prophetic scriptures, according to commandment of eternal God, made known for obedience of faith to al the nations.” Here we read that the scriptures are what were written by the commandment of the eternal God. Only the originals can make this claim. Even though the copies were completed by Jewish scribes or pious Christians, the words of the Originator – the Son of God - will not pass away (Mat. 24:35). They will be identified as scriptures while conforming to the originals.

In copying and translating, men’s mind is at work to make sure that they should not deviate from the originals. In this connection we must realize an important fact. The operation of the Spirit leading and forming the minds of men who are copying and/or translating is not God-breathing (THEOPNEUSTOS = inspiration) in its proper sense. It is the originals or the copies provide the SOURCE AND AUTHORITY to enable them to do the work. Their copies and translations reveal the will and mind of God that was revealed in the originals as in the originals and not as the originals.

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(Part-11.3)

KJVO (KJV-only) followers overrule our Lord and the apostles to make a man made copy or a translation to be inspired, infallible, and immutable. Even the translators avoided this false presumption. They were honest men who labored for the Lord and we are thankful to the Lord for raising them and enabling them to complete such copies and translations.

The Word of God as it was originally given is established in heavens for ever. But the Satan and his evil spirits continually try to change it as they are presented to us. Men in turn also do their part in changing this divinely inspired (God-breathed - THEOPNEUSTOS), immutable, and infallible Word of God - the spoken and written. It is written in Isaiah 24:5, “And the land is polluted under the inhabitants thereof; for they have violated the laws, changed the statute, broken the everlasting covenant.” It is written in Romans 1:25, “… who changed the truth of God into falsehood…” In KJV we read the Word of God as translated into English. KJVOs change this translated Word of God into falsehood. Teaching a translation to be divinely inspired and is at par with the original is falsehood at its best.

In contrast to this, it is written in 2 Corinthians 2:17, “For we do not, as the many, make a trade (corrupt - KJV) of the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as of God, before God, who speak in Christ.” The Greek word translated as “corrupt” in KJV is KATALEUO, means ‘to adulterate.’ The KJVO are eager to adulterate the Word of God that He spoke to us in Christ.

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(Part-11.4)

Some people think that if a book could satisfy certain rules that they propose, then they are to be accepted as inspired. Therefore any translation becomes inspired, according to them. (Moses LemuelRaj teaches this and he has admitted it on this Forum.) If all translations are inspired, why they differ in words and sentences? These changes and differences indicate that the translations are not immutable or infallible. Even KJV has undergone multiple revisions to correct the errors. It was changed in succession after the first publication in 1611 AD. The first revision took place in 1613 AD, two years after the first publication. The second revision was in 1629 AD, 16 years after the first revision. The third revision was on 1638 AD, nine years after the third revision. The fourth revision was by Dr. Scattergood on 1683 Ad, 45 years after the third revision. The fifth revision was by Dr Blayney in 1769 Ad, 86 years after the fourth revision. A total of five revisions to KJV, 1611, within a period of 158 years is a clear evidence of any manner of inspiration to that translation. I am not considering the New King James Version (NKJV) in this list. According to Dr. Blayney, “The work of improving and correcting went on through the centuries, …” Improving and correcting a published book do not indicate that it is God-breathed (inspired), immutable, or infallible.

It will be interesting to note that there are three other Authorized Versions (AV) before KJV being declared as the Authorized Version by the King to be read in the Anglican Church. The previous Authorized Versions were published in 1537, 1541, and 1568 AD. The 1537 AV is known as Thomas Matthew’s translation. The second AV was published in 1541 and is known as Cranmer’s Bible or the “Great Bible.” The third AV was published on 1568 and is known as The Bishop’s Bible... (Cont.)

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(Part-11.5)

... It was translated by eight bishops under the leadership of Matthew Baker.

Those who argue for the inspiration of KJV also refer to the statement that appears at the front of each copy, “The Holy bible containing the Old and New Testaments translated out of the original tongues: and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His majesty’s special command.” Do we read that the holy men of God diligently compared and revised what they were told to write by God, originally? Of course not, because what they wrote originally were God-breathed (inspired – THEOPNEUSTOS). In this connection let me quote what I read on a New Testament published by Roman Catholics. It reads, “The new Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Translated from the Latin Vulgate. Diligently compared with the Original Greek, and first published by the English College at Rheims, AD 1582.” KJV and the Roman Catholic Versions say almost the same about its source and their work. Both ought to be inspired, according to those who teach that all translations are inspired, because it contains 2 Timothy 3:16. The Roman Catholic Version says, “All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice…” In KJV we read, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness…” According to some, both translations are inspired. A travesty of human logic.

The translations of Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons also contain 2 Timothy 3:16. Are they also inspired? These translations were completed with the purpose of denying the deity of the Son, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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(Part-12.1)

How is Infallibility Differs from Authority?

If we forget the difference between obedience of man and the source of the scriptures, then it is easy to confound infallibility and authority of the scriptures. The authority of the scriptures as the Word of God demands unconditional obedience by faith. The supreme example is shown to us in Abraham offering his only son, Isaac, on the altar and was ready to sacrifice him as told by Jehovah. We are told in Hebrews 11 that Abraham believed that God will raise him up, because all the promises of blessings were through Isaac. Infallibility rests on its source. The words are being God-breathed is true. The original source of the Scripture is the Truth (2 Corinthians 2:17, John 14:6).

It is the same source, the Son, who holds every thing by the word of His power (Hebrews 1:3). There we see the authority. In Hebrews 1:3 we are not reading about the power of His word, but we read about the word of His power. This is similar to the Centurion’s words as the one who has the authority to say to one to come and to another to go, and they obey him. His authority came from the Roman Caesar and his words carried that authority. As an individual, he did not have that authority. But when it was conferred upon him by the Roman Caesar, his words were words of the power of the Roman Caesar. This is different from Caesar-breathed words that he may convey. Because of the authority conferred upon him, his words were words of his power. This is a poor example of the Son’s word of His power by which He upholds everything. Being God, his words are the words of God’s power. The Son being the source of the Word of God, as we read in 2 Corinthians 2:17, all the Word of God (presently, we have the written Word of God) has the authority to be obeyed.

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(Part-12.2)

A human example could be the words of a father to his children have authority without being infallible. The children are expected to obey them. A judge’s words are not infallible, but his words have authority to be obeyed. A president of a country is not infallible, but has authority to be obeyed.

Therefore, we read in Acts 5:29, “We ought to obey God rather than men.” It was told by the uneducated Galileans to the educated elites and rulers of the Jewish community, while they were in their court.

When it comes to the Word of God, its infallibility and authority is derived from being God-breathed (THEOPNEUSTOS). We should never forget its inspiration from God. This God-breathing took place before the words were written by men. They wrote it after they were God-breathed. When we realize this truth about the Word of God, we will not be using the leading question, the language of rhetoric, or the law of complement to establish our preferred teachings or doctrines. When we realize this truth we will not make statements to equate God to be like one of us. Some do this with statements of “giving 100% benefit of the doubt to God.” When we realize this truth, we will not say that the holy men of God took verses out-of-context to establish the deity of the incarnate Son.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 23 Feb 2007 12:21:50 PM Close
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(Part-12.3)

Please remember that the Word of God, the Bible, is God-breathed (inspired) record of what God revealed to us through holy men. It contains God-breathed records of what God said directly or through His angels to the holy men. It also contains God-breathed records of what men, women, Satan, evil spirits, serpent, … said and did. This do not imply that what was said and did by men, women, Satan, evil spirit, serpent, … were God-breathed (inspired). This God-breathing took place before the holy men heard them from God. The holy men heard them because God-breathed those words to them. 2 Corinthians 2:17 tells us that the Son was the source of this revelation and God-breathing.

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(Part-12.4)

Is the Use of Interpretation A genuine Part of Translation?

A translator use interpretations of words in their works. If he does not, many expressions in one language may not be understandable in another language. All translators use certain amount of interpretations or explanations, depending on the context, syntax, semantics, idioms, phrases, etc. by using different words in the translations for the same words that appear in the originals. (Examples: If one wants to translate from English to Malayalam the expression, “blind man,” it could be “KURUDAN: - a man who cannot see. Now let us consider a similar expression, “blind curve.” If any one translates it to mean ‘a curve that cannot see anything,’ then it will be laughable. Similarly the English word “sleeper” could be translated as ‘one who sleeps,’ or ‘a rail road tie.’ Years ago Kerala Kaumudi, a Malayalam newspaper, made such a mistake and reported that 400 people, who were sleeping by the banks of river Ganga were washed away by the overflowing river. The news release was that “400 sleepers were washed away by the rising waters of River Ganges.” It was the railroad ties that were washed away and not the people). In another thread Moses LemuelRaj explained about “inserted words” in KJV. He said that it was to “bring sense to the English language.” Where these “inserted words” inspired? If they were inspired, why did the translators of KJV used ‘italics’ to differentiate these insertions from the translated words?

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 26 Feb 2007 11:27:49 AM Close
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(Part-13.1)

Did the Holy Spirit Quote Scriptures Out-of-Context as Moses LemuelRaj Claimed?:

On 13 Dec 2006, in the thread that is titled ‘James 1:13’ Moses LemuelRaj wrote, ---<<Hosea 11:1, "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called MY SON out of Egypt." Matthew 2:15, "And was there until the death of Herod: that IT MIGHT BE FULFILLED which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, OUT OF EGYPT HAVE I CALLED MY SON." See how the Holy Ghost "force fits" Hosea 11:1 to the Lord Jesus Christ, and says it is FULFILLED. That is INDEED fulfilled, and the reasons are as follows: … >>---

This he wrote under the subtitle, “About FORCE-FITTING.” He considers fulfilling of a prophecy as revealed by God is ‘force-fitting.’ How could one say that the Holy Spirit is ‘force-fitting’ a portion from the Old Testament into the life of the Lord Jesus Christ? Especially, when he is doing this to justify what he admitted as taking scripture out of its context in explaining 1 John 3:9. He did admit that the ‘whosoever’ in 1 John 3:9 was taken out of its context and taught that that ‘whosoever’ was the Lord Jesus Christ. This explanation of his indicates us that he teaches that the God takes things out of context and force-fit them into new revelations.

Our Lord Jesus Christ also did and said things to ‘fulfill the scriptures.’ Moses LemuelRaj may claim that they are also force-fitting the scriptures. Who are we to teach such heretical ideas? The Holy Spirit told that those happened was to fulfill the scriptures and were not governed by the laws of nature. Those were specific actions to fulfill the scriptures. Fulfillments of the scriptures did not make Jesus the Son of God. We should never, I say NEVER, forget the truth that He is God and He fulfilled the scriptures. He came to fulfill the laws, the Old Testament.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 26 Feb 2007 11:29:14 AM Close
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After this Moses LemuelRaj went on to write, ---<<All that I have done is to use it WITHOUT attaching to it any context, because that statement (1 John 3:9), in ISOLATION, is a DOCTRINAL statement about ALL those who are "born of God." While "born of God" means different things when applied to believers and the Lord, yet, the truth remains that the MAN Jesus Christ was born by the power of the Holy Spirit. 1 John 3:9 cannot prove sinlessness of any man. But the same verse when applied to Christ indeed proves His impeccability>> Later on 17 Dec 2006 Moses LemuelRaj wrote, <<… I am sure you would have noted that I recognize the context, and 1 John 3:9 does NOT speak about anything concerning Lord Jesus Christ WITHIN that context. …>>---

He knowingly took scriptures out of its context to establish his preferred interpretations. He will even say that the Holy Spirit also do what he does, taking scriptures out-of-context. To justify this behavior, Moses LemuelRaj may resort to his rhetoric, “where did I write that?” My answer will be, it is in its context as seen in the thread ‘James 1:13.’

Taking a sentence or part of a sentence out of its context is considered even by the world as an act of dishonesty. Unfortunately, out-of-context quoting and explanations are regularly practiced by many politicians using the law of “the end justifies the means.” If not they use it to intimidate their opponent, to create confusion in the minds of the unsuspecting, to score a point by the use of rhetoric, to confound the hearers with the law of complement, by the use of leading questions, and so on. We are asked to, “Strive diligently to present thyself approved to God, a workman that has not to be ashamed, cutting in a straight line the Word of truth.” If we do not cut the Word of truth in a straight line, then we are cutting it crookedly... (Cont.)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 26 Feb 2007 11:31:12 AM Close
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(Part-13.3)

... One of that is to take the scriptures out-of-context to justify our preferred doctrines. After doing and admitting that he did use a part of 1 John 3:9 out-of-context Moses LemuelRaj justified his action by saying that the Holy Spirit was force-fitting Hosea 11:1. If we keep quiet on such actions of mud slinging on the Holy Spirit, what will happen next? Sooner or later they could start insisting that the Word of God; the God-breathed (inspired), immutable, and infallible word of God clearly and indubitably teach that “there is no God.” They may even show this as a valid statement using part of Psalm 14:1 and 53:1 as Moses LemuelRaj did in 1 John 3:9. All Moses LemuelRaj has to do is to take these two verses and take part of it out of its context and then blame the Holy Spirit for force-fitting Hosea 11:1 in Matthew 2:15.

Let me explain what was told in Matthew 2:15. God-breathed into Matthew that Hosea 11:1 was written by the prophet Hosea without knowing that it was a prophecy about the Son being called out of Egypt. Hosea wrote what was God-breathed as we read in 2 Timothy 3:16. When we look back into what Hosea wrote, we should say that he wrote them not knowing that it was a prophecy about the Son, but he wrote as an obedient servant of Jehovah as we understand from 1 Peter 1:10-11. That is Hosea wrote not knowing what he was prophesying. God-breathed into Matthew and revealed to him that this was a prophecy about the Son and it was fulfilled in Him and we know about that prophecy, the revelation of the will and mind of God.

The ‘KJV inspired’ people also use the despicable actions of taking the scriptures out-of-context to justify their accepted ideas as if that is what the Bereans did. They also make false accusation that the Holy Spirit force-fitted scriptures to be prophecies... (Cont.)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 26 Feb 2007 11:32:48 AM Close
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(Part-13.4)

... Are not the scriptures the Word of God? When one say about force-fitting the Old Testament verses in the New Testament, then they are saying that those verses are not prophecies, but is claimed so by falsification. Even they blame the Holy Spirit for it. We should be fearful about doing such things. They also attribute untruthfulness to the Holy Spirit, who is the Spirit of truth. Then they make this as their justification of taking scriptures out-of-context and creating strange teachings.

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(Part-13.5)

Prophecies and Their Fulfillments:

The Lord Jesus Christ did not become the Son because of the prophecies being fulfilled in Him. The prophecies were fulfilled in Him because he was and is the Son. None of what was written by the prophets is taken out of context or force-fitted by the Holy Spirit, as Moses LemuelRaj asserts without any scriptural justification. They are just being fulfilled as written in Deuteronomy 18:15-22. Moses LemuelRaj may also claim that many other prophecies were also taken by the Holy Spirit to force-fit out-of-context in the Lord Jesus Christ. If you ask the Jews, they will also say this about Psalms 110:1-4, Genesis 21:12 and so on.

While our Lord Jesus Christ was on the cross carrying our sins as a ransom for many, He said and did certain things to fulfill the scriptures. We read about them in the Gospels. The fulfillment of the prophecies did not make Him the Son. They were fulfilled in Him because he is the Son. To KJVOs, the fulfillment of the prophecies as mentioned in the scriptures is force-fitting by the Holy Spirit!!! They may also claim that through this force-fitting action the Holy Spirit made Jesus of Nazareth, the Son. Example: Moses LemuelRaj wrote about this force fitting in the thread ‘James 1:13.’ If this is not heresy, then what is heresy?

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(Part-13.6)

What is Heresy?

In the new Testament the Greek word AIRESIS, pronounced HAIRESIS, appears in Acts 5:17; 15:5; 24:5, 14; 26:5; 28:22; 1 Corinthians 11:19; Galatians 5:20; 2 Peter 2:1. Its meaning is ‘opinion,’ or ‘sentiment.’ If you are using KJV; it is translated as ‘heresy’ in Acts 24:14; 1 Corinthians 11:19; Galatians 5:20; and 2 Peter 2:1; and as ‘sect’ in Acts 5:17; 15:5; 24:5; 26:5; and 28:22. In Titus 3:10 we read about ‘heretics’ (HAIRETIKOS = opinionative person).

Heresy is not merely an error in teaching of matters of faith. It is the intermixture of scriptural truth and teachings with a totally foreign element. This intermixture was first found in Simon Magus of Samaria in Acts 8. Such a superstition, through a labyrinth of the wild endeavor, has penetrated Christianity. Christianity could resist this penetration of wild endeavor only by the means of the fullness of the Holy Spirit’s power to destroy all those phantoms and illusive systems that were endeavoring to copy it. In the matter of ‘inspiration’ such a penetration of a wild endeavor has taken place. They do boast against the truth and quote scriptures out-of-context to achieve their end. For example: Were do we read that inspiration takes place in any version of the Bible that contains the translation of certain verses. Moses LemuelRaj has fourteen of them to test the inspiration. According to Moses LemuelRaj, the inspiration takes place when God-breaths into the already written books (6 Jan 2007). According to his phantom and illusive explanations, we are fortunate that this did not happen with Quran, Vedas, or Upanishads. They are also considered as sacred writing and considered as scriptures by a large number of the world population.

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(Part-13.7)

Quoting the scriptures is not a sign of submission. Satan also quotes the scriptures, even to God. When he does that, God accepts what he quoted as His word. When he changes it a little bit, God tells him that too. The late Sir C.P. Ramaswamy Iyer was capable of quoting the verses from KJV better than any of us. That does not disqualify him being an anti-Christian fanatic.

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(Part-13.8)

What about Bishops and Pastors in the NT?

I wish to place an example to those who hold that all translations are inspired, especially KJV. We read in KJV that there are to be ‘Bishops’ in a local assembly (Philippians 1:1; 1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:7; 1 Peter 2:25). In Ephesians 4:11 we also read about ‘Pastors’ in the local Assembly. Since KJV is said to be inspired and also written by Apostle Paul and not by James, John, Peter, or Jude; why don’t we have bishops and pastors in the local assemblies? If not, why not? (Even the Anglican Church doesn’t have Bishops in all their local churches.) Are we in violation of the Pauline doctrine from Romans-Philemon as scripted in the ‘inspired KJV?’

How can we say that the Epistles from Romans-Philemon are written by Apostle Paul, and Hebrews-revelations are written from apostles Paul, James, Peter, John, and Jude? When the KJV was written (Scriptures comes from the Latin word to mean hand written books) in 1611 and successively revised by hand in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1683, and 1769; was it done by Apostle Paul to say that these were written by the inspiration of God by Apostle Paul or any other apostles? They are just translations. God did not breathe anew for the translators to write them done. That is why we read that it is a translation from the original language and they consulted not with God, but with the existing translations. They were Godly men and we should thank god for their truthfulness and their zealous to provide a translation at its best.

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(Part-14.1)

Is King James Version Inspired?

If we ask a KJVO (KJV Only) about his insistence of KJV being the inspired scripture or translation, he/she will provide an answer similar to what Moses LemuelRaj gives. That is, “What I hold is this: KJV is inspired Scriptures. I have not said it is the ONLY inspired Scriptures, because Timothy had inspired Scriptures, Lord Jesus read inspired scriptures, and they were NOT King James English text.” When we read or hear such a statement, please be not succumbed by how it sounds. What they say are about the ancient copies that were used by the Jews and not the recent translations. We should ask them to name a few translations that are inspired as KJV is, as claimed by them. We should not be satisfied with general statements. A prominent characteristic of a person who tries to spread teachings of cults and heresy is to mislead others with carefully placed words with maximum precision.

On 15 Jan 2007 Moses LemuelRaj gave fourteen characteristics of an inspired scripture. I am quoting Moses LemuelRaj and copying them as follows:

---<<The following are some of the characteristics of "Scripture(s)" as they are presented to us in the AV:
1. Scripture is truth (Dan 10:21),
2. Scriptures can be read, Lord Jesus expected Jews to read them(Mat 21:42)
3. Scriptures are fulfilled when they predict something (Mat 26:56)
4. Scriptures contain things concerning the Lord Jesus (Luke 24:27).
5. Scriptures are not understood unless the Lord opens our understanding (Luke 24:45).
6. Scripture is to be believed (John 2:22).
7. Scriptures are searchable (John 5:39; Acts 17:11)
8. Scripture testifies about the Lord Jesus (John 5:39)
9. Scripture cannot be broken (John 10:35).
10. We can have hope through the patience and comfort of the scriptures (Rom 15:4).
11. Scriptures are holy (2 Tim 3:15).
12. ... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.2)

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George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.2)

... 12. Scriptures are able to make some one wise unto salvation (2 Tim 3:15).
13. Scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim 3:16).
14. Scripture contains prophecy (2 Pet 1:20).>>---

I did a quick and brief check and these are my findings: I checked the Roman Catholic English translation of the Bible, RSV, ASV, and the New Translation. In all of these, all these fourteen points of Moses LemuelRaj are present and they are not absent. But KJVOs have difficulty to equate other translation with that of KJV. They want to teach that KJV is inspired. They will admit that the other translations are inspired as KJV is, if and only if they are forced to do so. If other translations are equally inspired as KJV is, according to Moses LemuelRaj, why was he making such an ordeal about KJV being inspired in the last few months of 2006?

Moses LemuelRaj uses expressions such as, ‘original spoken words,’ ‘the original spoken words are written down,’ ‘the Lord instructed to make copies,’ ‘Jeremiah wrote down his own original spoken words,’ ‘original autograph,’ ‘written words of God,’ and so on in connection with the Word of God. Are these writings and speaking were done in English, especially as in King James – with Thou, Thee, Ye, Speaketh, Walketh, etc.? He has written that the Word of God were not inspired when they were originally written as ‘autographs’ and only at a later time they were inspired by God by the Holy Spirit (6 Jan 2007 on the thread, ‘Inspiration of the Scriptures.’). This is not only contrary to what we read in the Scriptures, but it is teetering on the brim of hypocritical heresy, if not heresy itself. As a KJVO, he is saying that originals were inspired after they were written down and later the translation known as KJV is also got inspired? ... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.3)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.3)

... If KJV was inspired after that was translated, written down, why can’t others also claim the same inspiration about other translations, or about any other book? It appears that Moses LemuelRaj has changed his position of the inspiration of KJV on 16 Jan 2007. On 13 Jan 2007 he wrote, “I believe H1.” The H1 states, “KJV is the inspired word of God. As it is inspired it is immutable and infallible.” This is not the same as, “KJV is an inspired word of God. As it is inspired it is immutable and infallible.” The later tells that KJV is one of the many inspired scriptures, while the former (H1) tells that KJV is “the” inspired scripture. There is the definite article “the” and the word “scripture” is singular. That makes the statement indicative of that KJV is the only inspired scripture. On 16 Jan 2007 he wrote, “I do not teach that King James Bible is the ONLY inspired scripture.” Does he mean that other translations such as NIV, ESV, Living Bible, RSV, etc. are also inspired? He did not specify this and left it for others to make assumptions upon. If any one says that he implied that, then he will keep his silence if that is beneficial for him. If not, he will resort to his rhetoric, “Where did I write that?” I wish to know what he means by these two statements made about four days apart.

If KJV was inspired after it was written, was the 1611 version was inspired? What about the successive revisions that took place in 1613, 1629, 1638, and 1683? Or, was the 1769 revision was the only KJV that was inspired? Why do the KJVOs say, when KJV became inspired all the originals and the manuscripts became uninspired? This is evident from the fact that Moses LemuelRaj vehemently disagrees with the older manuscripts. What is their logical reasoning for this teaching? There is none... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.4)

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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.4)

... As an answer to these questions, Moses LemuelRaj may fire in full blast his favorite rhetorical outburst, “Where did I write that?” This is what he wrote in many words. I only summarized them.

Recently Moses LemuelRaj quotes the statement from KJV to show its authenticity. On 24 June 2005 10:54:16 he wrote in an earlier discussion on this forum, ---<<If a TEXTUAL objection comes from the “Greek,” my answer would be – you cannot say for sure that the AV translators used the Greek text, or ANY Greek test for that matter, in the passage (word) under consideration.>>--- To that rhetorical outburst, my response was, “I read in the front of The King James Version, “The Holy Bible,” followed by “Containing the Old and New Testament translated out of the original tongues: and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His majesty’s special command.” Now he says that they were not translated out of the original languages. He is willing to sacrifice the truth at the altar of preferred doctrines? This shows that he is not doing what is good, though he knows what that good is. In James 4:17 we read, “To him therefore who knows how to do good, and does it not, to him it is sin.” He also holds that the books Hebrew through revelations have only devotional application and not doctrinal application. Therefore, he may claim that James 4:17 has no doctrinal value for him.

If KJV was inspired (God-breathed) as Moses LemuelRaj claims, then why a series of successive revisions took place? I ask this question in the light of Matthew 5:18, 25:35; Luke 16:17; and 21:33. An inspired scripture (God-breathed written words) is immutable and infallible. That is, unchangeable and inerrant. Moses LemuelRaj agreed to this. Let us look into Matthew 5:18 from the 1611 KJV and 1769 KJV... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.5)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:45:12 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.5)

... The 1611 KJV reads, “For verily I say vnto you, Till heauen and earth passé, one iote or one title, shall in no wise passé from the law, till all be fulfilled.” The 1769 KJV reads, “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” Even in this one verse that deals with the immutability of the Word of God, the 1769 KJV significantly differs from the 1611 KJV version. Let me list them: the word “vnto” of 1611 KJV became “unto” in 1769 KJV. There are other changes: the word “heauen” became “heaven,” “passé” became “pass,” “iote” became “jot,” and “title” became “tittle.” What is the meaning of “jot” and “tittle” in 1769 KJV? We know that an alphabet is greater than a ‘jot.’ If not, then ‘jot’ in 1769 KJV should mean that which was written down hastily or briefly. Which part of the 1769 KJV was written hastily or briefly to say about ‘jot’ in that version? Is this what we read in 1 Peter 1:10-11? (I forgot that the epistles of Peter have only devotional application and not doctrinal application, per Moses LemuelRaj.) Did the Son implied in Matthew 5:18 that the prophets were writing the God-breathed words briefly and hastily? Since that word ‘jot’ did not appear in 1611 KJV, that version was not written briefly or hastily. Then why did they revise five (5) times in succession a version that was not written ‘briefly or hastily’ (this is the meaning of “jot,” if it does not mean a letter) to crown it with a 1769 version written briefly and hastily?

(To be cont. Part-14.6)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:46:46 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.6)

If KJV was inspired, what are these insignificant and justifiable ‘jots’ and ‘tittles?’ The changes as noted as an example in Matthew 5:18 from the 1611 and 1769 KJVs are significant. Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Originator of the Word, claimed that what men may consider as insignificant in the written word of God will not be changed at the will and whim of man. The Jews did that to the Old Testament, not only in translating the Septuagint (LXX), but also in copying. These changes from 1611 to 1769 are justifiable if and only if KJV was not inspired of God (God-breathed – THEOPNEUSTOS). The Lord Jesus Christ said that not a word or a letter will change. The revisers did drop letters from words and also changed words from 1611 through 1769. Who gave them that authority. According to Moses LemuelRaj, the translators wrote them first and then God breathed to inspire the writings. Are the KJVOs say that when that inspired 1611 KJV was revised, God had no choice but to re-inspire the newly revised versions again and again? According to them this no-choice-inspiration continued till 1769. This is the meaning of the KJVO’s teaching of inspiration of KJV.

If one wants, he could go through the Old Testament from the beginning to the end and see the changes that took place from the 1611 KJV to 1769 KJV. If 1611 KJV was inspired, how can an inspired word change? If the 1611 KJV was not inspired, how were the succeeding revisions became inspired of God. In other words, how is a revised version of an uninspired version (book) be inspired?

In this connection, I wish to provide a brief history of KJV. After the first publication of KJV in 1611, it was revised successively by the command of the kings (many of them and not one) in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1683, and 1769... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.7)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:48:19 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.7)

... Dr. Blayney who did the revision of 1769 wrote, “The work of improving, and correcting went on through the centuries, so that a modern copy of the Authorized Version shows no inconsiderable departure from the standard edition of 1611.” According to Dr. Blayney, the 1611 KJV was only a “standard edition” and that was in need of corrections and improvements. When he also mentioned about the 1769 KJV “shows no inconsiderable departure from the standard 1611,” he implied that there are departures, but they are not significant. How do KJVOs explain their position that it was inspired, and an inspired word of God was in need of corrections and improvements by men?

As a matter of fact, there were a series of corrections and improvements. The inconsistencies of translators and the discoveries of older documents or manuscripts in the original languages are the cause of such mishaps. Though they did not have the “originals,” they had copies of it. In the copies there were certain man made errors and mistakes of omissions and commissions. As more and more Hebrew and Greek texts (manuscripts) came to light, the translations needed to revise the previous version to correct the mistakes. If KJVOs dogmatically insist on the inspiration of a translation out of many languages, then they have to show the validity of their position. If they admit that all translations are inspired, then they have to justify that from the scriptures. In Matthew 5:18 the Lord Jesus Christ, the Originator of the Word of God, said that the translations are not inspired by God. Do they hold a teaching that God inspires a version that contains errors and mistakes and which is in need of corrections for improvement? If they do, then it is equivalent to saying that God made errors and mistakes.

(To be cont. Part-14.8)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:49:38 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.8)

Remember, only men make errors and mistakes. God does not make errors and mistakes. When KJVOs teach such erroneous dogma, it is the same as denying the infallibility and immutability of the word of God. When one admits mistakes, then it is mutable; similarly errors indicate that it is fallible and not infallible. It was the copiers of old or the translators who made the errors and mistakes, and their works were not inspired. They were honest and pious to call their works editions or versions and not originals. They did not equate their translation with the originals. God blessed their work for His glory. We are grateful to God for raising such men of honesty and integrity to provide such a translation. We along with them say that it was not inspired but it is just a translation.

Moses LemuelRaj wrote on 4 July 2005 @ 10:49:47, ---<<The originals are inspired, and ‘ALL Scripture’ is inspired, whether in original, copy, translation, or a copy of translation.>>--- According to him, God breaths into all copies or translations of the original written word the same way as He breathed (inspired) the fist original as it was given. According to Moses LemuelRaj, this inspiration could be duplicated by any just by copying the word of God, at least 2 Timothy 3:16. In other words, Moses LemuelRaj holds a teaching that inspiration is continuing even in the 21st century. According to this teaching, scriptures are written and rewritten, and errors and mistakes of the inspired word is continually corrected and modified through each and every one of us. If we make an error or mistake, willfully or not, that will be added as inspired by God, because He has to inspire what was written. If one speaks, then that need not be inspired. He is claiming equality with God’s prophets and apostles in writing and rewriting scriptures... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.9)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:51:29 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.9)

... He does not explain why an inspired and inerrant word of God contains errors and mistakes, as in KJV. I quoted Dr. Blayney, one who revised and provided the 1769 KJV, and he wrote about the need of revisions of 1611 KJV was to correct the errors and mistakes that were in it. Dr. Blayney did not say that they were correcting the composing errors and printing mistakes.

In this connection, let me remind my readers that what we call KJV is not a hand written book. According to Moses LemuelRaj, a scripture is a hand written book. What we have is a printed Bible known as KJV. Where do we read that a printed book, KJV, is inspired of God? “Nowhere,” is the resounding answer. Please note, I am trying my best to be as literal as Moses LemuelRaj claims to be.

On 4 July 2005 Moses LemuelRaj wrote, ---<<They have reached and found that KJV 1611 and subsequent editions of KJV are more reliable that any other versions.>>--- On 16 Jan 2007 he wrote that KJV is one of the many inspired versions. If KJV was inspired, how can one research to find the reliability of that translation? “More reliable” implies imperfection. Imperfection is fallibility. Fallibility indicates mutability. How can the same thing be imperfect and inspired? How can it be more reliable than another, unless there is another one (other than KJV) that is a standard? The indication of the reliability of something implies the possibility of failure. Moses LemuelRaj should read our Lord’s statement in Matthew 5:18, 25:35; Luke 16:17; and 21:33, at least. While admitting imperfection and at the same time demanding perfection, immutability and infallibility, is illogical.

(To be cont. Part-14.10)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:53:09 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.10)

I also wish to address changes of additions that were made and which makes the KJV uninspired. Yes, KJV is not inspired, because it contains statements that are not true. For brevity, I use only two examples in this category. First, In Matthew 12:40 in KJV we read, “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; …” Was Jonas in a whale’s belly as written in KJV? In KJV we also read about this in the Book of Jonah. “Lord had prepared a great fish… Jonah was in the belly of the fish …” (Jonah 1:17). “Lord spake unto the fish, …” (Jonah 2:10). Does this mean that whale is a fish? We know that a whale is a mammal and not a fish. If KJV is inspired as claimed by KJVOs, the whale is a fish. The word translated as ‘whale’ in KJV is the Greek word KETOS, which means a huge fish that is gaping for prey. This agrees with what we read in the Book of Jonah. The translators of KJV made an error in translating Matthew 12:40 and the KJVOs – Moses LemuelRaj included – say that God-breathed into this error after that error was committed. This is an error of great biological magnitude in the so called “inspired” KJV which is supposed to be an immutable and infallible (inerrant) scripture according to Moses LemuelRaj.

The second, In Matthew 9:17 we read in KJV, “Neither do men put new wine into old bottles, else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottle perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.” If any one try to test the truth or falsity of this statement will find that it is false. Of course we can put new wine into an old bottle. We also know that a bottle is made of glass which is typically based on silicon dioxide, boric oxide, aluminum oxide, or phosphorous pentoxide. If any one put new wine into an old bottle made of these chemical compounds, it will not break... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.11)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:54:36 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.11)

... Therefore, according to chemistry, this is a false statement. When the Son, the Originator of the Word of God, spoke this as a fact or written by the writer later as a true statement being witnessed by others and him, was it a false statement? NO! This is the reason. The Greek word translated as ‘bottle’ in KJV is ASKOS and it is a container made of skin to keep liquids like wine, water, etc. When the new wine is put into a new skin container (for the sake of ease, I will refer to this as ‘skin’ in the future) and cap it, then gas will begin to come out of the wine and fill the skin. The new skin will stretch and accommodate the pressure created by the gas. If we put the new wine into an old skin, then it cannot stretch any more. It has already been stretched to its maximum, before. The skin being stretched to its maximum and is full of wine, when the gas from the new wine fills the skin, it will burst or break. The chemistry of gas tells us that the pressure exerted by gas is the same in all directions, when it is in a confined space. This is another error in chemistry of gas that is in KJV. KJVOs claim that God breathed on this error also and made it inspired. Being “inspired,” this error became immutable and infallible (inerrant). Therefore, we will be correct to assume that KJVOs consider errors of commission are acceptable to be taught as immutable and inerrant (infallible), as it was originally given in the Word of God. On the other hand those who respect KJV as a translation without being inspired, this includes the translators also, look into the original Hebrew and Greek languages and rejoice about the inspired (God-breathed) word of God being immutable and infallible (inerrant).

(To be cont. Part-14.12)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 10:56:26 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.12)

I wish to ask the readers to be like Bereans to check the scriptures and not the accepted ideas. The translators of KJV used the Greek manuscript known as Textus Receptus (TR) along with other translations to produce KJV. Many of us use the 1769 KJV for convenience. According to KJVOs TR was also inspired which imply immutability and infallibility to it. The same way they also assert that the resulting KJV is also inspired – immutable and infallible. In Matthew 5:18: 25:35; Luke 16:17; and 21:33 we read from the lips of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Originator of the Word of God, that not a ‘jot’ or a ‘tittle’ will be changed. When the Lord said this, the Jews had their scriptures in 39 books. They also had a translation of it, Septuagint (LXX). The Jews carefully kept their sacred writings without changing much of it, because they knew that it was the Word of God and they should not change it. Did the translators of KJV including Dr. Blayney make any changes to the inspired, immutable, infallible Old Testament scriptures, while translating? To make this investigation simple, I am using only Genesis 1, the first chapter in the Old Testament and Revelation 22 from the New Testament. We know that they are the first and the last chapters of the Bible.

If we read Genesis 1 from the 1769 KJV, we will see certain words are in italics. That is explained by the translators as what they added to TR. KJVOs claim that TR was inspired, immutable, and infallible. Who gave men authority to change what is inspired, immutable, and infallible Word of God? Let us look into the magnitude of the changes to the inspired, immutable, and infallible TR to produce another inspired, immutable, and inspired work.

(To be cont. Part-14.13)

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(Part-14.13)

1. Genesis 1:2 --- they added ‘was’ in “darkness was.”
2. Genesis 1:4 --- they added ‘it was’ in “that it was good.”
3. Genesis 1:7 --- they added ‘were’ in “which were under the firmament.”
4. Genesis 1:7 --- they added “were’ in “which were above the firmament.”
5. Genesis 1:9 --- they added ‘land’ in “let the dry land appear.”
6. Genesis 1:10 --- they added ‘land’ in “called the dry land Earth.”
7. Genesis 1:10 --- they added ‘it was’ in “God saw that it was good.”
8. Genesis 1:11 --- they added ‘and’ in “and the fruit tree.”
9. Genesis 1:12 --- they added ‘and’ in “and herb yielding seed.”
10. Genesis 1:12 --- they added ‘was’ in “whose seed was in itself.”
11. Genesis 1:12 --- they added ‘it was’ in “saw that it was good.”
12. Genesis 1:16 --- they added ‘he made’ in “he made the stars also.”
13. Genesis 1:18 --- they added ‘it was’ in “God saw that it was good.”
14. Genesis 1:20 --- they added ‘that’ in “fowl that may fly.”
15. Genesis 1:21 --- they added ‘it was’ in “saw that it was good.”
16. Genesis 1:25 --- they added ‘it was’ in “saw that it was good.”
17. Genesis 1:27 --- they added ‘own’ in “in his own image.”
18. Genesis 1:29 --- they added ‘is’ in “which is upon the face of.”
19. Genesis 1:29 --- they added ‘is’ in “which is the fruit of a tree.”
20. Genesis 1:30 --- they added ‘there is’ in “Wherein there is life.”
21. Genesis 1:30 --- they added ‘I have given’ in “I have given every green herb.”
22. Genesis 1:31 --- they added ‘it was’ in “it was very good.”
(E&OE)

If the first chapter in KJV demonstrate so many addition to the scripture that the Originator the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ, said that even a ‘jot’ or a ‘title’ will not change. Who gave them this authority to over-rule the Lord and His words, which he said will not change? ... (Cont.)

(To be cont. Part-14.14)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 11:00:04 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.14)

... If KJVOs are claiming inspiration to make these changes and nullify the Son’s statement, what will they do to the rest. If any one wants to study this, you may do so by listing all the additions that are identified by the translators of KJV from Genesis 1:1 through Malachi 4:6. Are they saying that the inspired, immutable, and infallible Word of God is mutable and fallible? Yes that is what they say and this is heretical, if not a cult.

As we enumerated the 22 changes that are made to make the once inspired, immutable, and infallible Word of God a better inspired, immutable, and infallible Word of God (this is what KJVOs claim and Moses LemuelRaj wrote), let us look into the last chapter of the word of God. It is written in Revelation 22:18, “I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophesy of this book. If any one shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book. And if any one takes from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.” Again I wish to take a sample of this book from KJV and make a list of what they added to what was written by Apostle John by his hands as we read in the Greek manuscripts of old.

1. Revelation 22:2 --- they added ‘was there’ in “was there the tree of life.”
2. Revelation 22:2 --- they added ‘manner of’ in “which bare twelve manner of fruits.”
3. Revelation 22:2 --- they added ‘and’ in “and yielded her fruit every month.”
4. Revelation 22:2 --- they added ‘were’ in “leaves of the tree were for the healing.”
5. Revelation 22:4 --- they added ‘shall’ in “his name shall be in their foreheads.”
6. Revelation 22:6 --- they added ‘are’ in “these sayings are faithful.”
7. Revelation 22:8 --- they added ‘them’ in “and heard them.”

(To be cont. Part-14.15)

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 1 Mar 2007 11:02:47 AM Close
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- Every Scripture Is Divinely Inspired (2 Timothy 3:16) -
George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.15)

8. Revelation 22:9 --- they added ‘thou do it’ in “See thou do it not.”
9. Revelation 22:12 --- they added ‘is’ in “my reward is with me.”
10. Revelation 22:14 --- they added ‘are’ in “Blessed are they.”
11. Revelation 22:15 --- they added ‘are’ in “For without are dogs.”
12. Revelation 22:16 --- they added ‘and’ in “and the bright.”
13. Revelation 22:19 --- they added ‘from’ in “from the things which are written.”
14. Revelation 22:21 --- they added ‘be’ in “be with you all.”
(E&OE)

The KJV translators and revisers added more words to what was the God-breathed written word (scripture). In Revelation 22 alone we counted fourteen such changed. This is the portion where plagues are mentioned for those who add to that prophetical book. This is where the judgment of taking away of the names of those who add to this prophecy is mentioned. In KJV, both the Old Testament and the New Testament are filled with changes, especially of addition, by the translators. This they did to make the translation more meaningful and understandable to the common Christians who don’t know the original languages in which they were written by the prophets and apostles. But the KJVOs make these changes an irrefrangible part of God’s word by falsely claiming inspiration to KJV after it was translated.

Conclusion:

All these irregularities are self-evident witnessing of KJV is that it is neither inspired nor to be claimed so by any. If any does, then they are propagating heresy or sectarianism as we read in the inspired, immutable, and infallible (inerrant) Word of God.

The Word of God as it was originally given are God-breathed, inspired.

Shalom Malekim!!!

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 30 May 2008 7:26:53 AM Close
Dear Mathew Goerge,

I am bringing the thread forward, instead of posting the asme on another thread.

Shalom Malekim!!!

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Reply by : kbr   View Profile   Since : 31 May 2008 1:38:42 AM Close
George P Koshy,

It is interesting to note that, you used a long thread to blame another brother in the Lord. If you want to teach others something, it is good not to blame others. It is difficult to pick up any good thing from such a filthy mess of paragraphs.

If you sincerely desire others to understand the teachings from the Word of God, you have to use the approach of positive study and not the personal assassination. On the otherhand if you want to conduct the personal assassination and the usage of filthy material, you may succeed, but nobody will gain anything out of it.

You wrote: "Again I wish to take a sample of this book from KJV and make a list of what they added to what was written by Apostle John by his hands as we read in the Greek manuscripts of old."

Again it would be intersting to understand, how did you identify the original, written by Apostle John.

I read this thread once and kept silence, but again since you put the thread forward it is your duty to clarify it.

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Reply by : believer.bible   View Profile   Since : 1 Jun 2008 4:25:02 PM Close
>>"If any does, then they are propagating heresy or sectarianism as WE READ in the inspired, immutable, and infallible (inerrant) Word of God." - God-breathed Written Word
- George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ
(Part-14.15) on 1 Mar 2007 11:02:47 AM

So where are the "inspired, immutable and infallible (inerrant) Word of God" which you claim to have read?

In Christ,

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Reply by : asdpoilkj   View Profile   Since : 2 Jun 2008 5:16:51 AM Close

George P. Koshy, Ph.D., FASQ has added on 1 Mar 2007 10:57:48 at the end of the table,
"(E&OE)", (Errors and Omissions Expected), which exonerates him from the errors he made while copying the details from the Original Writings.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 2 Jun 2008 10:27:10 AM Close
Dear 'kbr,' and believer.bible,'

Your questions are answered in the thread. Please read.

Shalom Malekim!!!

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Reply by : kbr   View Profile   Since : 4 Jun 2008 4:41:40 AM Close
That means the postings in this thread copied from somewhere is the "inspired, immutable and infallible (inerrant) Word of God"

Is it not apostacy?

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Reply by : asdpoilkj   View Profile   Since : 4 Jun 2008 5:29:27 AM Close

The FIASCO was in copying from the originlals.

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Reply by : George P. Koshy   View Profile   Since : 4 Jun 2008 7:25:12 AM Close
Dear 'kbr,' and 'asdpoilkj,'

Yes! I admit that they are deduced or derived from the Word of God. Many helped me to understand the truth about the inspiration, infallibility, and immutability of the Word of God, including Dr. A.P. Mathew and Y. Ezekiel.

"There is nothing new under the sun."

Shalom Malekim!!!

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Reply by : kbr   View Profile   Since : 5 Jun 2008 1:31:48 AM Close
In another thread, this gentleman is still abusing moses2006 for using another phrase, now he is using "deduced and derived" theory from the word of God.

I know both of these great men of God Dr. A P Mathew and Y Ezekiel personally and I am sure they did not use the "deduced and derived" theories or add any "deduced and derived" theories to substantiate the word of God.

We have to go back to the Word of God and not to the "deduced and derived" theories. The Lord asked the doctor of Law, what is written in the law and how do you read it? Jesus did not ask, how do you "deduce and derive".

I know this man will come up with long writings to justify on his usage "deduced and derived"!!

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