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While in Kerala I have heard the present day famous brethren prophetical preacher preaching in a convention that there is no mentions of US in the Bible. He said US is not at all in God's plan of any kind. Iraq is there, Raussia is there and even India and many other countries are there, but not US. He said that the slide down of US has already started quoted (1)Dollar value as an example- It was Rs 55/$ and now its rs 35/$ and he fore-casted that it will come down below rs 20/$ in an year (2) No wars are won by US (Vietnam was a terribel mistake, even afghanistan & now Iraq is being proved as a mistake). (3) Europe is getting more attention than US. (Standards are set by EU and bargains with US).
Brethren, is there any mention of US in the Bible?? or it just happened to be a materialistic nation outside God's plan.
Post by : greencard
20 Nov 2007
Reply by : asdpoilkj
20 Nov 2007 5:04:10 AM
Revelation 13th Chapter describes the Characteristics of the Second Beast, which is USA. The first one was the Pope and his regime. If we read Daniel's prophecy and Revelation 13th Chapter and American history we find that USA is the second beast.
Reply by : George P. Koshy
20 Nov 2007 7:07:31 AM
We are told that the authenticity of a prophet is that all of his prophecies will be fulfilled. This is without exception. If not, he is not a prophet of God. Out of the three prophecies of this man, how many were fulfilled. The first was with a time line, one year. Did that fulfill? The second statement is false. Look at WW-I and WW-II. Look at the cold war. About Iraq, the war was won, but the stabilization of the country has not taken place. Now we hear from the liberal news media that there is progress in that too. This is a miserable fulfillment of prophecy by a prophetical preacher! From the Word of God, I could say that he is not a prophet of God.
It is true that USA, Canada, mexico, and so on (this includes all countries in the America) along with Australia, New Zealand, and many African countries and Asian countries are not mentioned in the Bible. They are not in the prophetical picture. That means that they are not in the God's plan of execution of the Great Tribulation upon all the earth. That do not mean that they are excempted. They will also suffer. That only means, the anti-christ will be coming from one of those countries mentioned in the prophecies and not from that whcih are not mentioned.
Reply by : wilson609
20 Nov 2007 9:30:32 AM
after the times of the biblical prophets,many have appeared claiming to be prophets,and we all know that their utterances have turned out to be wrong.God has a plan not only for each one of us,but even for nations.how could anyone think that a country which has contributed so much for the propagation of the gospel and for the industrial progress of many nations is not in God's scheme of things to come
In his post asdpoilkj said "Revelation 13th Chapter describes the Characteristics of the Second Beast, which is USA. The first one was the Pope and his regime. If we read Daniel's prophecy and Revelation 13th Chapter and American history we find that USA is the second beast."
The question is -- how can you be so sure? Care to explain?
Reply by : samuel.v.j
7 Apr 2008 1:10:24 AM
Those who are well aware about the scriptures and the prophecies , please prophecy with respect to scriptures and how the different continents and countries fit into different names as mentioned in the scriptures.So that we can all study together.
Hi brethrens, i am from us. why we r bothering about us,iran etc. God almighty has a plan. He will do it on His time.
Us is a supporing country of Israel, may be after 5 or 10 yeras they will not help isreal. cos all countries will come aganist us and Israel. now itself almost arab regieons are speak aganist us and Israel. God will protect His people(Israel).
Reply by : observer
8 Apr 2008 10:38:59 AM
Another passage came to my attention is Daniel chapet 11. I would like to point out one verse Daniel 11:37 "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all" It says "God of his fathers" Does this mean Jewish?
Reply by : greencard
8 May 2008 4:16:11 AM
Depreciating Dollar =================== (1)Iran, the second biggest OIL producer under OPEC has stopped trading Oil in US$. It wants buyers to pay in EURO. (2)OPEC countries has started feeling that the all the US$ currencies packed in gunny bags and kept in their basements are loosing value day by day and hence thinking to follow suite of Iran. (3)NRBKs(Non Resident Brethren Keralites)and Ex-NRKs as per an estimate lost over 1000 crores in one yaer because of their $ deposits abroad due to erosion of $ value. (4)US imports have to pay more due to $ erosion and hence steep rise prices for all commodities. (5) George Bush is talking non-sense saying that Global Food problem is due to improved eating habits of Indians & Chinese.
Not necessarily this person is Jewish, because all who live today are descendants of Noah; that means we are related!. Anti Christ is a person who I think, is inspired by Satan. I sometime thought that it could have been Russia, being a communist country.